Around the NHL: Part XXIV

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Agree with a lot of this, the Miller we are seeing in Vancouver is not the same one we'd be seeing if he'd stayed a Ranger.
My only issue is that by most accounts the issue was between him and AV. If the Rangers had decided that they were moving from AV it would have been interesting to Miller here with a new coach. He was a mid-50s point player in a situation he didn't like; could Quinn have got him to buy into a system that saw him engaged on every shift?

If the issue was between AV and Miller, his issues would have disappeared once he got to Tampa. They didn't. He was still a headcase, and was on the 4th line regularly. It's the 2nd trade in 15 months that was the wake-up call for him.

I mean, good on him, and Vancouver is reaping the rewards but I can't really blame the Rangers if it happened with a different organization as well

 

[eco's bones]

I don’t think the Rangers had decided to move on from AV when the letter was sent out. It became pretty apparent over the final stretch of that season that AV was unhappy with the direction of the franchise, culminating with that final press conference, which was a really bad look... very defensive.

It was probably being talked over but AV did not take it well and went into a pout and later on woke up and realized his job was on the line but by then it was too late. To me AV is not a guy who grows and develops a team. It's not like he can't deal with rookies or young players at all--it's that he really leans on his veterans. So far he's shown he can take a team deep into the playoffs. Once that team begins to age out though he's thumb up in his ass clueless and more reliant on the old folks on the decline. I was not surprised when after he retired Rick Nash said he'd been dealing with concussion issues for about 3 years---he'd been a perimeter player for about that long but you'd never know it from the way AV used him.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

It was one of the weirdest experiences going into a dunkin and seeing all the “Yankees sucks”cups and what not. I know Boston hates them with a burning passion but going into random stores and their selling “Jeter sucks” “ Yankees suck” T-shirt’s was completely foreign to me.

Little brother syndrome. Boston will never be a big city because NYC is on the east coast.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Dunkin has 700 stores in the Boston DMA and a lot more in surrounding New England. That’s their wheelhouse.

I think he was talking more about the quality of the ad than the player featured. They are really corny.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Little brother syndrome. Boston will never be a big city because NYC is on the east coast.

It's honestly unbecoming of a city like Boston. Philly, I can see. But Boston feels like more of an intellectual city. Do they not realize how it comes off? You'll never see that shit in NYC. And Boston has actually won more world series recently just low brow stuff.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

It's honestly unbecoming of a city like Boston. Philly, I can see. But Boston feels like more of an intellectual city. Do they not realize how it comes off? You'll never see that shit in NYC. And Boston has actually won more world series recently just low brow stuff.

Cambridge is as far as intellectual as Boston goes. There are some real cement heads walking around there

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Cambridge is as far as intellectual as Boston goes. There are some real cement heads walking around there

I think of Cambridge as an extension of Boston. Then again, Philly has Penn.

 

[LeetchisGod]

It's honestly unbecoming of a city like Boston. Philly, I can see. But Boston feels like more of an intellectual city. Do they not realize how it comes off? You'll never see that shit in NYC. And Boston has actually won more world series recently just low brow stuff.

I went to BU for undergrad. Boston is an intellectual city because of all the colleges. Many of the students aren't from there originally. There are a lot of mouth breathing townies in the surrounding suburbs.

 

[NCRanger]

It's honestly unbecoming of a city like Boston. Philly, I can see. But Boston feels like more of an intellectual city. Do they not realize how it comes off? You'll never see that shit in NYC. And Boston has actually won more world series recently just low brow stuff.

You're right, you generally don't see that crap in NYC, but in MOST places around the country, you will.

My theory is that it has to do with ridiculously biased broadcasters. and very little to do with whether a city is "smarter" or "friendlier" than another.

For example, Cubs fans don't really start trouble with anyone except their rivals, the St. Louis Cardinals, and I think it's more because the Cub broadcasters, while obviously broadcasting as "Cub fans" don't all but say, so and so sucks. Listen to a Nationals broadcast, and you'll hear the difference.

 

[Edge]

It wasn't that he played poorly or wasn't liked in Tampa, it was a cap move. Other guys had better chemistry with each other, especially with the guys that came through their AHL team.

He found himself in the dog house quite a few times in Tampa. He finished there taking more than few shifts on the fourth line.

I think that whole Tampa experience kind of gets washed over, but that's probably where the biggest wake-up call came from.

You just sign a contract, the team demotes you to the fourth line, and then trades you to your third team in 15 months.

Personally, I think that's when the light bulb went off.

Well, that and playing with Pettersson and/or Horvat. Because I saw quite a bit of the old Miller this past season, it's just a little easier to mask with a pair of play-driving centers, one of whom is arguably one of the top young centers in the entire league.

 

[bobbop]

I think he was talking more about the quality of the ad than the player featured. They are really corny.

They are corny but they play very well with their core audience.

 

[JohnC]

Boston sports fans and the people in general mostly suck, but it’s a great city.

I prefer it to NYC 9 times out of 10.

 

[ElLeetch]

Cambridge is as far as intellectual as Boston goes. There are some real cement heads walking around there

There is always an appropriate Family Guy reference:

 

[Fugazy]

Tampa is skating circles around Columbus right now.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Lots of boring, low scoring games in these playoffs. Is it the crappy ice?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lots of boring, low scoring games in these playoffs. Is it the crappy ice?

The ice in Toronto is dreadful, it's been fine in Edmonton.

But to that point, I think most of the high scoring games have been out west.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Always loved these Yotes jerseys

 

[aufheben]

Gavrikov has a 28.65 CF% this series and has been on the ice for 7/9 5v5 goals against.

 

[Tawnos]

Always loved these Yotes jerseys

Think the green is a little too dark, but love them otherwise. Kachina is the best logo.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

1. Arizona, another team that didn't belong in the real playoffs.
2. How stupid was Toronto to give up on Kadri?

 

[Tawnos]

Yeah... Arizona is done.

 

[LeetchisGod]

The Avs are on a completely different level than the Yotes.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Yeah Coyotes are just soo outmatched.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Arizona has 4 shots on goal. 4! Through almost half the game.

 

[17futurecap]

Shout out the Yotes winning the play-in round, and not giving the Devils a top 15 pick.