Around the NHL: Part XX

[Konamic Ice Hockey]

Man I love a good reverse hit. Also I am getting tired of a fight or a scrum after every hit. If it is dirty, I get it but if it is clean, play on. They need to add an extra two from unsportsmanlike/delay of game for fights started after clean hits. Good for Graves, glad the AVEs gave him a chance.

 

[egelband]

Players really hitting to injure. Ugly.

 

[Maximus]

Avalanche suffer a bigtime ouchie as Rantenen apparently is going to be out for "weeks" according too what they were saying on their board.

One would think their interest in Kreider will amp up to the point where hopefully besides the #1 pick we'd obviously be getting in return, we'd hopefully be able to get more than Jost as that extra piece!

Quick edit...Adrian Dater at Denver Post reporting that Rantanen has a broken clavicle and out 6-8 weeks. Kreider is almost a must now if Avs want a chance at the Cup as they only have three top 6 guys left...MacK, Landeskog and and Burakovsky.

 

[aufheben]

Players really hitting to injure. Ugly.

I really think these reverse hits should be made illegal over the summer.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I really think these reverse hits should be made illegal over the summer.

No one complained in the Peter Forsberg era

 

[Miamipuck]

I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with a reverse hit. You're going to check another player, he beats you to the punch. That MacKinnon hit was 100% clean and within the bounds of fair play.

I am personally tired of every clean freaking hit having to be answered for. It's a a contact sport and stop complaining about contact. I wish the so called tough guys would go after some POS dirt bag like Wilson the way they go players throwing clean hits. It's really getting annoying to watch.

 

[aufheben]

I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with a reverse hit. You're going to check another player, he beats you to the punch. That MacKinnon hit was 100% clean and within the bounds of fair play.

I am personally tired of every clean freaking hit having to be answered for. It's a a contact sport and stop complaining about contact. I wish the so called tough guys would go after some POS dirt bag like Wilson the way they go players throwing clean hits. It's really getting annoying to watch.

The impact is harder than a regular hit, and a lot of times the player making the initial hit isn't expecting it. You can absorb a hit without it. I don't see what the purpose of it is besides trying to injure the other player.

 

[n8]

Players really hitting to injure. Ugly.

what clip are you watching? That was a text book clean reverse hit. TB should be embarassed they made such a show out of it all but I'm just guessing a lot of the players didn't see the play, just the after math so that accounts for their reaction. Palat ran himself into a wall thinking he'd get an easy hit. Lower that center of gravity. Lead your with your arms, not your ****ing head.

The impact is harder than a regular hit, and a lot of times the player making the initial hit isn't expecting it. You can absorb a hit without it. I don't see what the purpose of it is besides trying to injure the other player.

The purpose is to not get knocked over by the other player. You either reverse hit, or you get hit. You cannot physically "absorb the hit" otherwise unless someone gives you a time machine and you can calculate exactly the amount of newtons the checker is about to apply to you. If you actually "absorb the hit" you can risk injuring yourself as well so there's purpose #2, not letting the other guy injure you.

 

[SouthernRanger]

The impact is harder than a regular hit, and a lot of times the player making the initial hit isn't expecting it. You can absorb a hit without it. I don't see what the purpose of it is besides trying to injure the other player.

Ah shame. A reverse hit is a defensive minded event. Don’t try dish it if you can’t take it.

 

[aufheben]

Watched the Sharks game. That was depressing.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Watched the Sharks game. That was depressing.

25m on IR with Erik Karlsson, Tomas Hertl and Logan Couture. If they win anything this year, It'll be the draft lottery.... Oh wait

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

No one complained in the Peter Forsberg era

...and?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

It’s pretty simple to me: you’re allowed to crunch a guy skating at full speed through the neutral zone or into the boards, so long as you keep your feet on the ice and your elbow and stick down. The same should be true for a reverse hit.

 

[Synergy27]

I really think these reverse hits should be made illegal over the summer.

Yikes really? Outlaw protecting yourself? That’s a pretty radical stance.

 

[Irishguy42]

Watched the Sharks game. That was depressing.

Why would you willingly do something like that to yourself?

 

[GAGLine]

It’s pretty simple to me: you’re allowed to crunch a guy skating at full speed through the neutral zone or into the boards, so long as you keep your feet on the ice and your elbow and stick down. The same should be true for a reverse hit.

McKinnon's hit wasn't even a reverse hit. It was shoulder to chest. The only thing "reverse" about it was that Palat was steaming in to hit him, and McK turned the tables on him. Good, clean hit.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Man I love a good reverse hit. Also I am getting tired of a fight or a scrum after every hit. If it is dirty, I get it but if it is clean, play on. They need to add an extra two from unsportsmanlike/delay of game for fights started after clean hits. Good for Graves, glad the AVEs gave him a chance.

lol, at least it’s not like Soccer where a player acts as if an oppositions shadow makes the impact of a club.

 

[kovazub94]

Yeah it's a nice gig playing alongside MacKinnon but Burakovsky has really come into his own this year as he's been a great pickup by Sakic.

With tonight's first goal tonight on the PP , the Bura is on pace for 26 goals and 62 points...not too shabby for a guy who never scored more than 17 goals or 38 points before in his career.

IMHO Him and Buchnevich have been on a very similar path with Bura a year ahead.

 

[Konamic Ice Hockey]

The impact is harder than a regular hit, and a lot of times the player making the initial hit isn't expecting it. You can absorb a hit without it. I don't see what the purpose of it is besides trying to injure the other player.

MacKinnon was in a dangerous spot, how far he was from the boards and the angle of the hit would have sent him to the boards very awkwardly. He could of ducked out of the hit and Palat would have been severely injured. If he was closer to the boards he could have done the little hop against the boards but he was not. He did a completely clean reverse hit. Not much else he could have done. I honestly don't know how you cab magically absorb a hit.

McKinnon's hit wasn't even a reverse hit. It was shoulder to chest. The only thing "reverse" about it was that Palat was steaming in to hit him, and McK turned the tables on him. Good, clean hit.

You just described a reverse hit. I don't know if you are thinking the hits Foppa would use even when the other player was not going to hit him as reverse hits but those are just using his body to protect the puck. Reverse hit is reversing the energy back at the player trying to hit you. Like a batter hitting a ball that was pitched at him.

 

[duhmetreE]

One thing I cant stand about the modern NHL... 'how dare you hit my friend with a clean check'

play the f***ing game. take your lick and move on

 

[GAGLine]

MacKinnon was in a dangerous spot, how far he was from the boards and the angle of the hit would have sent him to the boards very awkwardly. He could of ducked out of the hit and Palat would have been severely injured. If he was closer to the boards he could have done the little hop against the boards but he was not. He did a completely clean reverse hit. Not much else he could have done. I honestly don't know how you cab magically absorb a hit.


You just described a reverse hit. I don't know if you are thinking the hits Foppa would use even when the other player was not going to hit him as reverse hits but those are just using his body to protect the puck. Reverse hit is reversing the energy back at the player trying to hit you. Like a batter hitting a ball that was pitched at him.

When people usually complain about these types of hits, it's exactly like the ones Forsberg used to do, where he would turn his back to the other player and hit him. He didn't just turn his body to protect the puck. He also initiated contact with his back turned.

It seems that we agree that what MacKinnon did wasn't the same thing, so then it's just semantics of what is or isn't a reverse hit. Whatever you want to call it, I was responding to the idea that this type of hit should be banned, which IMO is ridiculous. That hit was as clean as they come and if Kreider or Lemieux did it, there wouldn't be a single word of protest.

 

[duhmetreE]

I really think these reverse hits should be made illegal over the summer.

that would be a horrendous decision.

A check is a check. As the defender or the puck carrier. It's the battle for the puck. You can't limit it from one side.

 

[n8]

When people usually complain about these types of hits, it's exactly like the ones Forsberg used to do, where he would turn his back to the other player and hit him. He didn't just turn his body to protect the puck. He also initiated contact with his back turned.

It seems that we agree that what MacKinnon did wasn't the same thing, so then it's just semantics of what is or isn't a reverse hit. Whatever you want to call it, I was responding to the idea that this type of hit should be banned, which IMO is ridiculous. That hit was as clean as they come and if Kreider or Lemieux did it, there wouldn't be a single word of protest.

I don't agree that it was any different that what Forsberg used to do. Do you have some other angle I'm not seeing? They look the same. The only thing that is different is that the guy got injured. His fault IMO. I agree that it is ridiculous to ban this type of hit. You might as well remove all body checks at that point.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Leafs still need a goalie. Penguins up 3-0 2ed period just started 17:08 left. Leafs desperately need goaltending or a 1st round being swept is in the future

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Leafs still need a goalie. Penguins up 3-0 2ed period just started 17:08 left. Leafs desperately need goaltending or a 1st round being swept is in the future

Leafs problems seem to be clear as day to everyone not named Kyle Dubas, who is a bad GM.