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Around the NHL - Part XLII - (2023-24 Season edition)

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Clark Kellogg said:
The value of a game is my contention.
If a team wins in regulation they are awarded 2 points. Total points awarded 2.
If a team wins in O/T they are awarded 2 points and the losing team is awarded 1 point. Total points awarded 3.
It just bush league for a major sport to have two different values for a regular season game.
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But it does happen elsewhere. In soccer its 3 for a win and 1 for a tie. So sometimes 2 points handed out, sometimes 3. It doesn't really make a difference so long as every team is playing by the same rules.

Captain Lindy said:
Without loser points they are under .500. They are a joke.
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Technically they got the 'tie' points and just suck at the bonus event.
 
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Grifter3511 said:
But it does happen elsewhere. In soccer its 3 for a win and 1 for a tie. So sometimes 2 points handed out, sometimes 3. It doesn't really make a difference so long as every team is playing by the same rules.


Technically they got the 'tie' points and just suck at the bonus event.
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Thanks, I did not know that.
I didn’t mind the old way where games ended in ties and each team received 1 point.That will never return.
I would prefer all games having a 3 point value. 3 to the winner in regulation and 0 to the loser. If the game goes to O/T then 2 points to the winner and 1 point to the loser.
What you described in Association Football is a better system what is currently used in the NHL today.
 
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Ail said:
LA just put 36 SOG on Seattle in one period. lol

Edit 34 now, was 38. NHL is so embarrassed they keep removing shots.

29 now? Okay maybe something is broken.
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22 now
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Clark Kellogg said:
Thanks, I did not know that.
I didn’t mind the old way where games ended in ties and each team received 1 point.That will never return.
I would prefer all games having a 3 point value. 3 to the winner in regulation and 0 to the loser. If the game goes to O/T then 2 points to the winner and 1 point to the loser.
What you described in Association Football is a better system what is currently used in the NHL today.
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Yeah soccer changed from 2 points for a win (and this all games being worth two points) to 3 for a win about 30 years ago in the hope to have teams play for the win instead of just avoiding to lose and being satisfied with a tie. I don't it really worked statistically (in that there are less ties now), but I like the general idea of incentivising a win.

In the NHL it's exactly the opposite: it's pretty much always smarter to secure the regulation tie. That's the wrong way around, but of course it creates "parity" as good teams do not get the points separation they would get with another system. But yeah, I fully agree with you, that they should give out 3 points for a regulation win to make all games worth the same.
 
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Isles fans out in full force this morning crying Rangers fans posting about them so much as if they weren't running their mouths last two weeks during our little rut. Losers. Suddenly, they want to throw comparisons out there and rag on Zibanejad and annoint Horvat the next MacKinnon. Team is 15-17, technically, and they're telling everybody they're for real and that the Rangers will fall off. Just ask their bonehead cheerleader Phil on X.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
Incredible hearing so much about how great the Kings are when they can’t win a home game.

You don’t hear anything about the Rangers nationally ever
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They lose when people notice. Its like KOD. Let them be underestimated until it’s too late to ignore them.
 
Leonardo87 said:
Strome and Vatrano have gone ice cold since McTavish went down.
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He's obviously the best player of the 3 but Vatrano going cold isn't surprising, that probably happens with McTavish too. Streaky goal scorers are going to be streaky goal scorers.

It humors me that Strome is pretty much a lock for 1000 games.
 
Grifter3511 said:
But it does happen elsewhere. In soccer its 3 for a win and 1 for a tie. So sometimes 2 points handed out, sometimes 3. It doesn't really make a difference so long as every team is playing by the same rules.


Technically they got the 'tie' points and just suck at the bonus event.
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As someone else pointed out, as a whole, the problem for me is it doesn't incentivize winning in regulation. Yes, teams are "rewarded" for getting their tie points but on the flip side, the team that won is not "punished" for failing to get a decision before the "bonus events". The NHL has admitted those bonus events aren't "hockey" (they disappear in the playoffs) so why not go to 3-2-1-0 system? Because of the allusion of parity and the money it brings. Don't fault them but I don't have to like the fact that I've caught myself before the 3rd period starts in a tie game against a good team thinking "Ok, if they just get the tie here, we'll see how OT/shootout goes."

I mean, I also follow a league where I definitely thought, (after the Rangers went up 3-2 against the Leafs which hadn't had a PP yet). "Ok, they are gonna have to hold on here while killing at least one penalty before this game is over."


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Yeah, the logical side of me wants to agree with @jerseyjinx94 but then the irrational side looks at that and hopes the shirt Vatrano got him makes him itchy...That pic is even worse when in motion.

 
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Clark Kellogg said:
Thanks, I did not know that.
I didn’t mind the old way where games ended in ties and each team received 1 point.That will never return.
I would prefer all games having a 3 point value. 3 to the winner in regulation and 0 to the loser. If the game goes to O/T then 2 points to the winner and 1 point to the loser.
What you described in Association Football is a better system what is currently used in the NHL today.
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Just give the 2 points for a win whether it is in OT or not and forget the Loser /Fishstick point altogether . It is a simple concept . Why reward teams that lose ? It never made a bit of sense IMO....stupidest thing the league has ever done in the 50 or more years I have watched it.....almost as stupid as the flashing/moving ads on the boards.......those are very bad for TV viewers.....especially older folks .
 
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BLOCKERSAVE said:
I'm a big Rangers fan, the only time they mention the Rangers nationally, its always some negative, never positive
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Even after we trounced them the other night the TSN channel went right to Matthews and his two goals as the lead story following the game. Toronto Sports Network ! Most of Canada also hates TSN....especially outside Montreal and Toronto.
 
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leetch99 said:
Just give the 2 points for a win whether it is in OT or not and forget the Loser /Fishstick point altogether . It is a simple concept . Why reward teams that lose ? It never made a bit of sense IMO....stupidest thing the league has ever done in the 50 or more years I have watched it.....almost as stupid as the flashing/moving ads on the boards.......those are very bad for TV viewers.....especially older folks .
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because in the past teams used to just play for the tie once they got near the end of the third period and into OT. They'd rather bank the 1 point than risk losing it going for 2 points, so a tie game near the end of the third was unwatchable and so was the OT

Assuring a team of a point was an attempt to relieve that and get teams to play for the 2 points and keep it exciting. Arguable if it has succeeded.
 
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