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No Fun Shogun
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Could you imagine being one of the tanking teams going into this expansionFirst they change the draft lottery to make it tougher to get a top pick, then they add 4(!!) expansion teams so the best draft pick you can get is 5th.
Brutal.
Don't worry, even if they rush an expansion tomorrow, there's zero chance that the existing teams give up on their chances for McDavid or Eichel. Newbies would probably be picking 3rd at the earliest.
Kurtosis
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No Fun Shogun
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Apparently Dan Patrick mentioned the Canes as a legitimate relocation candidate, on top of the already established possibilities of Arizona and Florida.
Either he's just speculating or the NHL is really on the verge of some momentous changes...
Either he's just speculating or the NHL is really on the verge of some momentous changes...
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Blue Liner
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I was always under the impression Carolina had a decent following for some reason. I stress decent...not hockey crazy. I know Ladd had said when they won the Cup there and were walking around in the streets most people didn't know who they were but still, had thought they had a decent clip at the gate. I know youth hockey has grown there as a result of them coming to town.
That's the one thing I will say about these teams in non-traditional markets. Even if some end up relocating and ultimately weren't great for the NHL long-term, many have had a huge impact on hockey for the US as a country and for those regions. Many of them have yielded what are now very strong grass roots programs at the youth level and you're seeing more and more players from these areas develop into Junior, Major Junior, DI College, and pros. Seeing more and more AZ, TX, CA, TN, FL, etc abbreviations on rosters and NHL draft results. At least some positives have come from it even if the NHL clubs don't survive in those places.
That's the one thing I will say about these teams in non-traditional markets. Even if some end up relocating and ultimately weren't great for the NHL long-term, many have had a huge impact on hockey for the US as a country and for those regions. Many of them have yielded what are now very strong grass roots programs at the youth level and you're seeing more and more players from these areas develop into Junior, Major Junior, DI College, and pros. Seeing more and more AZ, TX, CA, TN, FL, etc abbreviations on rosters and NHL draft results. At least some positives have come from it even if the NHL clubs don't survive in those places.
Kurtosis
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The question is this though:
Is that momentum sustained?
It's great that the interest in the non-traditional areas has spiked up, but will it drop as quickly as it was captured if the team leaves the region?
Blackhawkswincup
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Hurricanes actually do have a pretty crazy hardcore fanbase ,, They go to airport to greet team during playoffs in middle of night (Thousands showed up during 2009 run)
Also Carolina being thrown out smells like usual southern bashing BS
They have good lease and are stable franchise
Kurtosis
GHG
Carolina is going nowhere. There are definitely other teams that should be on the chopping block ahead of them.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
The thing about Panthers that has me thinking it has legit potential is the fact the county is putting together a study on weather they shoudl allow Panthers out of lease (So they can relocate)
They have seen success in Atlanta and KC with regard to increased profit by having no NHL team and increasing entertainment/expo bookings
They have seen success in Atlanta and KC with regard to increased profit by having no NHL team and increasing entertainment/expo bookings
ColdSteel2
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I remember reading in Wall Street Journal or something, maybe 05 during the lockout, that they were losing more money than anyone and it had to do with their broadcasting and non gate related revenue. After the Cup though, I'm sure it's better.
Blue Liner
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Perfectly reasonable question. Think it depends on the area on a case by case basis.
I don't think anything will drop quickly....the kids who are already playing aren't going to just stop playing because the NHL team left. Longer term, after a few years....sure, maybe interest dwindles amongst those who have not yet taken up the game. Entirely possible.
Speaking about Phoenix, specifically, if the Coyotes left I think the youth hockey there would stay strong. The programs are well entrenched and a lot of people there do like hockey a lot, believe it or not. I think the youth hockey there would remain in place and kids would keep playing. I think it's established enough that it would sustain itself and people would keep taking up interest in playing.
UsernameWasTaken
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The broadcasting crew for Sportsnet/HNIC coverage next season.
The most irritating people in Canadian hockey broadcasting (Healy, Stock, Cox, Maclean) are all there.
The most irritating people in Canadian hockey broadcasting (Healy, Stock, Cox, Maclean) are all there.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Yes
Of course the Yotes dont play in Phoenix ,, They foolishly moved away from Pho to a suburb
Ace Rothstein
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Hawkaholic
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The broadcasting crew for Sportsnet/HNIC coverage next season.
The most irritating people in Canadian hockey broadcasting (Healy, Stock, Cox, Maclean) are all there.
Yeah, that's awful..almost every single one of them.
Blue Liner
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It is. There are some natives but a huge part of the population there is from somewhere else, especially in the winter when all the snowbirds from all over North America come down and live for a few months. Lots of young families, though, so obviously that's going to change over the next generation a lot, but today if you ask someone where they're from I'd say seven or eight out of ten will say somewhere else.
I remember when I lived there and was staring paramedic school we had to introduce ourselves the first day of class. I think our class had something around 22 people at the time, and only two were born and raised in the area their whole lives.
IU Hawks fan
They call me IU
My aunt and uncle left the SW side for there when they were like 19. Both are in their 60s now.
CourtneyDagger50
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Can't believe no one signed him to a contract. Maybe he waited too long in hopes of signing with the Hawks again?
He is a very serviceable #6 guy, despite what his detractors here would say.
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