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I've been treating Chicago wins like the turning of day to night. You just accept it as a constant.
 
so Theodore may be out for the yr so looks like Markstrom gets a chance as a starter. They shouldnt start Clemmensen that's for sure.

Luongo rumors will start again though. TB is the best fit for Luongo me thinks
 
Arty wins it for the Jackets in OT, assisted by Erixon

But erixon did miss an empty net seconds earlier

oh, and tyutin is great on the pp as well
 
I really do not like nor condone what Kane did during his shootout attempt.... IMHO that's making a mockery of the shootout. How is it fair to the goaltender that a skater can take all day long with the puck just as long as he's inching forward with it on his stick? It's one thing to slow down before you take your shot but in my opinion Kane is pushing the limits of what should be deemed acceptable.
 
I really do not like nor condone what Kane did during his shootout attempt.... IMHO that's making a mockery of the shootout. How is it fair to the goaltender that a skater can take all day long with the puck just as long as he's inching forward with it on his stick? It's one thing to slow down before you take your shot but in my opinion Kane is pushing the limits of what should be deemed acceptable.

Isn't 15 seconds? Either way it's somewhat borderline. It's hard to restrict that. Some goalies are flat out brick walls in the shootout. You have to get creative. Slowing down and trying to out-wait the goaltender is one technique. It challenges the goalie to out-wait the player and many can do it. But I get what you're saying.
 
I really do not like nor condone what Kane did during his shootout attempt.... IMHO that's making a mockery of the shootout. How is it fair to the goaltender that a skater can take all day long with the puck just as long as he's inching forward with it on his stick? It's one thing to slow down before you take your shot but in my opinion Kane is pushing the limits of what should be deemed acceptable.

It's OK in the rules. Goalie could try for a poke check, although with Kane's quick hands, it probably wouldn't end well. It's also not the first time he's slowed down in the shootout. He had a beautiful goal against Minnesota last season.

Shootout was made to entertain the fans anyway. Kane has amazing hands. Let him show them off.
 
It's OK in the rules. Goalie could try for a poke check, although with Kane's quick hands, it probably wouldn't end well. It's also not the first time he's slowed down in the shootout. He had a beautiful goal against Minnesota last season.

Shootout was made to entertain the fans anyway. Kane has amazing hands. Let him show them off.

Would you be happy if most of the players started employing the same tactic just because it's technically not breaking the 'rules'?

I don't mind the shootout but I don't want to see it turn into a gimmicky side-show.....
 
Would you be happy if most of the players started employing the same tactic just because it's technically not breaking the 'rules'?

I don't mind the shootout but I don't want to see it turn into a gimmicky side-show.....

But the slowing down doesn't work for every player. Not every player can slow themselves down while adjusting to using quick hands when they need to. Some need to have more momentum going. Nash went in at an average speed tonight. Callahan moved in pretty quickly. Zuccs usually would slow it down to a degree. I think it varies for every player.
 
Isn't 15 seconds? Either way it's somewhat borderline. It's hard to restrict that. Some goalies are flat out brick walls in the shootout. You have to get creative. Slowing down and trying to out-wait the goaltender is one technique. It challenges the goalie to out-wait the player and many can do it. But I get what you're saying.

I know you can't enforce it or restrict it so it comes down to the players having the sense to act professional about it.... Technically the puck needs to keep moving forward but I think you can push the limits of what should be considered acceptable (or professional) when it comes to the act of taking a breakaway / shoot-out attempt.... I know I was not a big fan of the players who would hockey stop in the crease and then do a spin-o-rama to score a goal ala Jason Blake style... Sure one could argue the puck was still being stick-handled in one fluid motion but again, it's pushing the boundaries of what should be deemed acceptable IMHO....

In a real game scenario a player would never have the freedom to slow down 15 feet before the goalie and take 5 seconds to break in waiting for the goalie to go down or make a move. That's what annoys me.
 
But the slowing down doesn't work for every player. Not every player can slow themselves down while adjusting to using quick hands when they need to. Some need to have more momentum going. Nash went in at an average speed tonight. Callahan moved in pretty quickly. Zuccs usually would slow it down to a degree. I think it varies for every player.

Why wouldn't it be effective for other players to perfect in practice and employ in shoot-outs? Just because other players don't do it does not mean they can't score that way. Some players just push the boundaries of what the rules do not restrict... Rulebooks cannot be perfect and that is why there are always unwritten rules among the players and a 'grey area'.... Remember in that Philly game when they kept the puck behind the net and refused to move it? There was nothing the refs could do to prevent that and no penalty to call, but between the fans and the other players who play the game - you don't do stuff like that....
 
Would you be happy if most of the players started employing the same tactic just because it's technically not breaking the 'rules'?

I don't mind the shootout but I don't want to see it turn into a gimmicky side-show.....

I wouldn't mind it. If slowing down gives Kane the best chance to score and put his team ahead, then he should go for it.

And the shootout is already a gimmicky side-show.
 
Why wouldn't it be effective for other players to perfect in practice and employ in shoot-outs? Just because other players don't do it does not mean they can't score that way. Some players just push the boundaries of what the rules do not restrict... Rulebooks cannot be perfect and that is why there are always unwritten rules among the players and a 'grey area'.... Remember in that Philly game when they kept the puck behind the net and refused to move it? There was nothing the refs could do to prevent that and no penalty to call, but between the fans and the other players who play the game - you don't do stuff like that....

My point was more to the effect of not every player will practice it and do it. I think every player is different and some just don't like that move or even feel comfortable doing it. But who knows. Listen I get what you're saying because they absolutely would not have that much time and space to score. Plus the shootouts win in a shortened season can play a huge role in the end results. But the devil's advocate will say the skater is doing what he has to, to get that extra point for his team. It goes both ways imo.
 
What's to say if a player is going that slow the goalie runs them and strips them of the puck?

Edit: I just remembered the crease rule. Derrp
 
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The shootout is a lame gimmick and I'm glad players like Kane can at least make it interesting and fun in their own ways
 
The shootout is a lame gimmick and I'm glad players like Kane can at least make it interesting and fun in their own ways

Completely agree that it is lame. However, in a shortened season when you are playing only teams in your conference, each shooter in the shootout has you on the edge of your seat.

I really wish they'd get rid of it though and have it go to 3v3 after the 4v4 five minute OT. I think that would be much more exciting. I'd rather see the game in 3 players hands at a time than just one in a shootout (plus your goalie).
 
Completely agree that it is lame. However, in a shortened season when you are playing only teams in your conference, each shooter in the shootout has you on the edge of your seat.

I really wish they'd get rid of it though and have it go to 3v3 after the 4v4 five minute OT. I think that would be much more exciting. I'd rather see the game in 3 players hands at a time than just one in a shootout (plus your goalie).

I remember that 3 on 3 we had a year (or two?) ago. The players looked confused, the coaches didn't know what to do, the fans didn't know whether to cheer because their team is in good position to score or if they should be ******** bricks because of a 2 on 1 the other way if the puck is turnover in any way, shape or form. Also, I think it's a bit unfair for the goalies to have to play through 5 minutes of 3 on 3. It's close to impossible for a team to not score on a 5 minute 3 on 3 or even a 3 on 2. The number of games that go to SO right now would mean an additional 3-4 GA per goaltender in spots where they're just going to get owned by the best scorers in the league. 3 on 3 is far more spontaneous than shootouts are imo.
 
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