Around the NHL III

[HockeyBasedNYC]

So frustrating when the Rangers outplay and thoroughly outchance Boston at home and can't get a ****ing goal and lose, and the Devils get a gift on the road in OT and get two points when they were about to get zero. Would've been nice if Chara put it in his own net the other night.

With the parity in this league, sometimes I think a majority of the wins on any given night come from getting the bounces. Yeah you make your bounces, but to a certain extent there's a some luck involved too.

Not saying the Devils are always lucky. But its the ebb and flow of the league and how you catch teams on any given night. Like someone said, we got that bounce off the glass against Quick. Then a game like Tuesday night happens. It seems to all even out in the end.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

The Quick goal is going to nuke the rest of our luck until the end of time.

Not that we had much to begin with.

 

[Boruto]

I'll sacrifice a goat for some luck. Goats are lucky.

 

[Baemon Severson*]

It's nauseating how we'll playing our ****ing rear ends off and fire 90 shots on net and can't get anything to go, while the Devils who get outplayed just about every game have other teams scoring for them.

Devils get outplayed every every game, huh?

They're the 8th best puck possession team in the league, two spots better than the Rangers

 

[glenwo2]

One thing I will agree with Ranger fans :

This loser-point system is dumb.

I still don't understand the purpose of it.

It really should be : Winning team(Regulation/OT/Shootout) gets 2 points while the Losing team GETS NOTHING.


But alas, this is what we Hockey fans have to deal with...

BTW, I hate the shootout and would rather have a 15 minute 4-on-4 OT to guarantee a winner.

 

[Emptyvoid]

My friend and I are big soccer fans. He recently suggested something I'm sure others have seen before:

3 points for regulation win
2 points for OT/SO win
1 point for OT/SO loss
0 points for regulation loss.

There are too many teams in the NHL that are disenchanted, thinking they are right on the brink to competing for the Cup. The point system needs to be changed so to separate the elite from the rest of the group.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

This may be something only I get a kick out of, but there is quite the twitter back and forth going on between everyone's favorite "incarcerated" rumor guy and the barstool NY writer KFC. Not that "bob" had much (any) credibility left, but the guy sounds like a complete nut.

 

[glenwo2]

This may be something only I get a kick out of, but there is quite the twitter back and forth going on between everyone's favorite "incarcerated" rumor guy and the barstool NY writer KFC. Not that "bob" had much (any) credibility left, but the guy sounds like a complete nut.

That incarcerated dimwit is about as bad as Manish Mehta/Cimini.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

One thing I will agree with Ranger fans :

This loser-point system is dumb.

I still don't understand the purpose of it.

It really should be : Winning team(Regulation/OT/Shootout) gets 2 points while the Losing team GETS NOTHING.


But alas, this is what we Hockey fans have to deal with...

BTW, I hate the shootout and would rather have a 15 minute 4-on-4 OT to guarantee a winner.

i dont like the loser point at all and i dont like the shootout... i know the NHLPA would never go for it but i would love if they had the same system in the regular season as in the playoffs, 5 on 5 continuous overtime.... hockey is best played during sudden death... playoff overtime is the best..

 

[JimEIV]

I still don't understand what is wrong with a good old fashioned tie?

 

[Brick City]

I still don't understand what is wrong with a good old fashioned tie?

Everything. Most US sports fans hate ties (yes I know they exist in the NFL but they are very infrequent). One of the biggest knocks against the NHL was the ties before they were rightly eliminated from the sport.

That said, the 3pt (regulation win) 2pt (OT/SO win) 1 pt (OT/SO loss) system posted above definitely needs to be implemented.

 

[Overcast]

Everything. Most US sports fans hate ties (yes I know they exist in the NFL but they are very infrequent). One of the biggest knocks against the NHL was the ties before they were rightly eliminated from the sport.

That said, the 3pt (regulation win) 2pt (OT/SO win) 1 pt (OT/SO loss) system posted above definitely needs to be implemented.

Don't see why it needs to be so complicated. 2 points for a win in any fashion, 0 points for a loss in any fashion. Clean cut. I'm never going to understand how an OT/SO loss doesn't count as a "loss" in this league either, like when the Hawks went on their tear last season while losing in OT/SOs along the way, but still being considered "undefeated" or whatever people were saying. That's complete BS to me. I get they went on a point streak, but undefeated streak? No.

If players/etc don't want to deal with 20-minute OT periods, why not do 10-minute 4v4s with breaks in between OTs? Allows for a flow to develop more so than a 5-minute OT while not being another full period, and whatever break would give them a rest. Eliminates the chintzy shootout and the players aren't forced to play for an hour a game..or if they really want to have some sort of "unique" party piece shtick, 3v3 with a net moved up to the red line.

 

[glenwo2]

Don't see why it needs to be so complicated. 2 points for a win in any fashion, 0 points for a loss in any fashion. Clean cut. I'm never going to understand how an OT/SO loss doesn't count as a "loss" in this league either, like when the Hawks went on their tear last season while losing in OT/SOs along the way, but still being considered "undefeated" or whatever people were saying. That's complete BS to me. I get they went on a point streak, but undefeated streak? No.

If players/etc don't want to deal with 20-minute OT periods, why not do 10-minute 4v4s with breaks in between OTs? Allows for a flow to develop more so than a 5-minute OT while not being another full period, and whatever break would give them a rest. Eliminates the chintzy shootout and the players aren't forced to play for an hour a game..or if they really want to have some sort of "unique" party piece shtick, 3v3 with a net moved up to the red line.

That would certainly be nutty, to say the least.

 

[gary laser eyes]

3 pts for regulation win
2 pts for OT win
1 pt for shootout win
0 pts for ANY kind of loss

OR

2 pts for regulation/OT win
1 pt for shootout win
0 pts for any kind of loss

You shouldn't be rewarded for losing.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

3 pts for regulation win
2 pts for OT win
1 pt for shootout win
0 pts for ANY kind of loss

OR

2 pts for regulation/OT win
1 pt for shootout win
0 pts for any kind of loss

You shouldn't be rewarded for losing.

i dont like the 3 pt for a win. dont see the point of changing it from 2 to 3..


it should be 2 pts for a win of any kind, a win in regulation or overtime..

0 pts for a loss of any kind, regulation or overtime..

 

[Drewbackatu*]

You know guys we did get two lucky goals this year, Quick's mishap and the Columbus game.

Exactly!

 

[Don Chytil]

Don't care about the loser point as much as I care about the amount of points awarded for each game being equal. Rangers and Devils have played the same amount of games, but the Devils have had way more points up for grabs to the amount of OT games they've been a part of. The NHL Standings will continue to not make logical sense until the league gets rid of this problem and makes all games equal.

Either go with 3 point games (3 and 0 if regulation, 2 and 1 if OT/SO), or 2 point games (2 and 0 regardless of OT)

 

[gary laser eyes]

Don't care about the loser point as much as I care about the amount of points awarded for each game being equal. Rangers and Devils have played the same amount of games, but the Devils have had way more points up for grabs to the amount of OT games they've been a part of. The NHL Standings will continue to not make logical sense until the league gets rid of this problem and makes all games equal.

Either go with 3 point games (3 and 0 if regulation, 2 and 1 if OT/SO), or 2 point games (2 and 0 regardless of OT)

Yup.

Both teams have played 21 games.

The Rangers have won 10 and lost 11.

The Devils have won 8 and lost 13.

Devils are ahead of the Rangers in the standings. So dumb.

The more i think about it the more I like the 2 points for ROW, 1 point for shooutout win, 0 points for all losses. If they are intent on keeping the shootout, this makes the most sense as it devalues what is essentially a gimmick. Either way the loser point needs to go!

 

[Brooklyndevil]

If the Devils are great in the shootout Ranger fans gripe, if they suck in the shootout Ranger fans gripe. Get over it, these are the rules of the game for the past several years for every team. No one likes this system, but it is what it is. And Devils have earned their points. They've lost only one game in OT and won one. All the other losses came during some shooting competition. Face it, we're not as bad as many hoped.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

I still don't understand what is wrong with a good old fashioned tie?

I don't either.

 

[Ail]

If the Devils are great in the shootout Ranger fans gripe, if they suck in the shootout Ranger fans gripe. Get over it, these are the rules of the game for the past several years for every team. No one likes this system, but it is what it is. And Devils have earned their points. They've lost only one game in OT and won one. All the other losses came during some shooting competition. Face it, we're not as bad as many hoped.

Agree with everything but the last sentence.

 

[aufheben]

What happens when Jagr slows down? His S% is 16.3% right now. With an even higher S% than that, Henrique is on pace for around ~32 points.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Agree with everything but the last sentence.

You're entitled to your opinion. However, I like how we're playing and like where we're sitting right now in the standings.

 

[darko]

For a moment I thought I was on Devils boards.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

If the Devils are great in the shootout Ranger fans gripe, if they suck in the shootout Ranger fans gripe. Get over it, these are the rules of the game for the past several years for every team. No one likes this system, but it is what it is. And Devils have earned their points. They've lost only one game in OT and won one. All the other losses came during some shooting competition. Face it, we're not as bad as many hoped.

This is the HFNYR "Around the NHL" thread. Of course we're going to gripe about other teams in here, especially rivals. Same stuff happens on every single team board.

On the point system, I would like to see 3 point games instituted. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for OT/SO win, and 1 point for OT/SO loss. My big issue with the current point system is that teams that win more games in regulation have their points watered down by having another game be worth 3 points, while their win was only worth 2.

People looking for the league to go back to either ties or no points for a loss are missing the point. The whole reason that the league went to the current system is because teams were sitting on the tie, afraid to lose a point, which made for some brutal hockey. They won't go back, so at least have every game be worth the same amount of points. A 3 point system would address that.