Around the NHL: HOCKEY’S BACK BABY
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toddkaz
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Not a fan of the trade for Vancouver. Its giving up a lot for a free agent.
Even if he signs in Vancouver he is gonna want 9+
I applaud Vancouver for trying to get better but it can easily backfire.
Even if he signs in Vancouver he is gonna want 9+
I applaud Vancouver for trying to get better but it can easily backfire.
MarkusKetterer
Shoulda got one game in
He forechecked a lot last year. Like physically did it. He’d hit the dman. I’d prefer a 200ft guy, but I’ll accept half of that as long as they hit.
Unfortunately he stopped doing that so now he’s a cap dump.
toddkaz
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Deep Blue Metallic
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They smell a Cup, and are going all in. I wonder what that's like.
Not only that, it takes the top known center candidate off the board for their conference rivals (Colorado namely). It's also amazing that half of the trades in the NHL since the season started have been by the Canucks. Allvin wants? Allvin gets. He also has a star player to renegotiate with this summer who was on record about wanting to know that Vancouver is trying to ice a winning team. This is a pretty emphatic statement from management that they want to win and will do what it takes to build on the team having a great season. This is no Salisbury Rocket Bob Corkum acquisition, this is pushing a lot of chips into the pot and going for it.
And it doesn't touch Vancouver's top prospects. They can still make another move if they choose or even *gasp* make smaller moves to improve their depth via later round picks like happen every deadline.
Old Navy Goat
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Also, let’s not praise them too much for taking a promising 39-goal scorer, signing him, and turning him to a cap dump in a matter of months
Last summer he was untouchable according to Canucks fans and was their best goal scorer.
Last summer he was untouchable according to Canucks fans and was their best goal scorer.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
It's a good thing that they have Tyler Myers's $6M AAV coming off their cap after this season.
They have enough cap space next year that they can give those two around $20M AAV and they should be OK.
Old Navy Goat
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Think about it, Peterstone sees what his comps are getting so he's going to want 11+, Lindholm is on record asking 9+ so that's all their wiggle room
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Even if they account for $21M, they still have around $15M in cap space with 10 Fs, 5 D, and 1 G signed.
That is not a bad cap situation given the core guys that they would have coming back.
Dubi Doo
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I've been reading posts from some insightful posters about a potential move to Atlanta. At first, I thought 'why?!', but that answer is pretty nuanced. Seems like there's been a big-time growing interest in hockey down there + the stadium location will be better (Braves made a similar move and saw attendance rise).
My issue is adding yet another hockey team in the NHL. What a way to saturate the talent in the league. Hopefully, another team will be relocating, and we stay at 32 teams.
My issue is adding yet another hockey team in the NHL. What a way to saturate the talent in the league. Hopefully, another team will be relocating, and we stay at 32 teams.
Krieger Bot
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I remember liking Soucy, Blueger, and DeSmith as depth options in the summer. All of them ended up in Vancouver. I like what Allvin is doing there.
This move seems like the sort to grease the skids in re-signing Pettersson instead of him being disgruntled and wanting out. That alone is a pretty solid basis to make the move. Dealing Kuzmenko is turning found money as a UDFA into something else, especially since he wasn't meshing with Tocchet. He only has one more year before hitting UFA so it's not like Calgary is tied to retaining him for long (which is part of their issue with so much of their core).
A later first in a meh draft, a prospect who is having a good season and a conditional 4th is the rest of it. They didn't move anything off their roster (Hoglander) or their best handful of prospects (Lekkerimaki, Willander, Podkolzin) either. Seems pretty solid.
It also doesn't hurt that the current front office group in Vancouver seems to be in lockstep with Dan Milstein so that makes his clientele easier to acquire. And Vancouver seems like an easy sell for UDFA (how they got Kuzmenko in the first place) so they may be able to replace the prospect depth lost just by dipping into European signees over the next year or two.
Deep Blue Metallic
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Let's just say that whatever cap challenges Vancouver might face, we'd all be delighted to swap places with them. I'll be rooting for our expansion cousins.
Every Owner: Gimme that sweet, sweet lucre!
Typical fan: No expansion, please. We're full. Go away.
Every Owner: Gimme that sweet, sweet lucre!
McLeod catching an extra charge. Curious if that means he is Player 1.
HOOats
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American professional sports will eventually need to reckon with the reality that their top tier leagues cannot limitlessly expand, despite capitalism's endless appetite for "growth." Once leagues start edging towards 40 teams, twice that of top tier Euro soccer leagues, the dilution of talent and the chasm between the big-market "haves" and small-market "have nots" will be laughable.
Of course there's a natural solution to an over-stuffed, hyper-stratified top league, but MLS owners have already previewed the self-serving opposition to any relegation/promotion system that the other leagues would surely emulate. Granted, it isn't built in to or necessarily compatible with our major/minor league systems, but it's the only logical solution I see if the suits can't kick their expansion fee habit.
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The single biggest thing that killed the Thrashers was shitty ownership and an untenable arena situation since the Hawks owner wanted nothing to do with hockey. But I'm still not convinced Atlanta is a good market for the league either, it's not exactly known for being a great pro sports town to begin with.
Beerz
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I think it's the opposite... "being party to the offense" sounds alot like being an accomplice... it may be just a lesser charge just in case that can't convict him on the more serious charge of the actual sexual assault. So it could be he didn't participate but was present.
My brother was the asst coach/strength and conditoning coach for the Thrashers. Back then, it was a shitty place for hockey for these reasons and more.
tsujimoto74
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Anonymous NHL player poll 2024: Who's the best player? Most overrated? Best goalie? Worst road city?
Best goalie? Player you'd most like to punch? Best and worst refs? Favorite and least favorite road cities? Nearly 200 NHL players weigh in.theathletic.com
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I love these results. The only thing that would make it better would be Brady Tkachuk and Eichel making it out of the group of "other" players.
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Marchand has to be upset that he's not #1.
Proud of Skinner tho.
Kevbeau
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I was on the off-ice officiating crew. 2nd (I think) Owner had to buy both Hawks and Thrashers but wanted nothing to do with hockey. Basically made it clear they would make it difficult for anyone who bought the thrashers to use arena. That attitude eventually permeated into all aspects of the org and people stopped caring and it was obvious to fans. They pulled all support for youth outreach, Cut marketing, etc. There were a few years were they were semi-competitive and it was a good atmosphere. Also getting to that arena on a weeknight is a b$&@! I worked literally less than a mile away and would take me 15 minutes. Atlanta has a large northern and Canadian expat community. Large beer and youth leagues. It could work here but it would need someone committed with a long term plan
yeah, I lived it as a former season ticket holder and the myriad of reasons why have been explained again and again, but a lot of folks don't want to hear it nor believe it could work again. It could with the right owner and this proposed arena complex in the ideal location north of the city.
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