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Der Jaeger

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I like Gauthier a lot. But, using semi-cooked futures for less-cooked futures is still pushing competing down the road. And it leaves the Sabres with less futures to trade for immediate upgrades on the NHL roster.

Haven't we had enough of that?
Possibly. But the Sabres have one power forward type in their prospect pipeline. Adding in a high end prospect like Gauthier would be a steop in the right direction.

And the way Adams is hording average to small skilled forwards, there isn't a clear path forward for either team construction or roster spots without some sort of movement through trades.
 

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Possibly. But the Sabres have one power forward type in their prospect pipeline. Adding in a high end prospect like Gauthier would be a steop in the right direction.

And the way Adams is hording average to small skilled forwards, there isn't a clear path forward for either team construction or roster spots without some sort of movement through trades.

I would hope they look at trying to cash in multiple prospects or prospect and picks for a more established player. Also, I don't think of Gauthier as a power forward. Tuch and Cozens are more contact driven than Gauthier. Big, sure. But powerful? Eh...
 

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I would hope they look at trying to cash in multiple prospects or prospect and picks for a more established player. Also, I don't think of Gauthier as a power forward. Tuch and Cozens are more contact driven than Gauthier. Big, sure. But powerful? Eh...
Agree, but I can't find a power forward type or a physical complementary defenseman, who are available on a team that would take futures.

Gauthier's size alone would allow him to at least absorb physicality.
 

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Agree, but I can't find a power forward type or a physical complementary defenseman, who are available on a team that would take futures.

Gauthier's size alone would allow him to at least absorb physicality.
I'm with you...shouldve broke bank for Crouse when it was even slightly possible
 
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I would hope they look at trying to cash in multiple prospects or prospect and picks for a more established player. Also, I don't think of Gauthier as a power forward. Tuch and Cozens are more contact driven than Gauthier. Big, sure. But powerful? Eh...
I like most of our prospects, but like my girlfriend they are all movable for an upgrade. That includes the current roster players.
 

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The one college insider seems to think it was the not burning ELC time that was a deciding factor.
This is what is so weird to me…because the timeline Friedman lays out sure points to that being the factor even though he can’t confirm it. Like…if it’s so important to you that you will tell them two months later you will never sign there and effectively ghost the entire organization afterwards…maybe make that really clear when you talked to them in March. Yes they were already going to be hit by overages. Yes they preferred not burning the year. No…I don’t buy for one second that they wouldn’t have reversed course and signed you with that ultimatum.

To go from I want to sign now to I’m never signing like that…yeesh. There is a conversation missing in between those things that it’s clear listening to Philly was never had. I doubt he’ll ever give a definitive answer as to what happened. He wouldn’t even tell them when it mattered.
 

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Any Gauthier trade that centered around a smaller skilled winger prospect would have been wonderful. But also not what they were looking for. And no. I would not trade Owen Power for him. I think that is genuinely ridiculous.
 
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This is what is so weird to me…because the timeline Friedman lays out sure points to that being the factor even though he can’t confirm it. Like…if it’s so important to you that you will tell them two months later you will never sign there and effectively ghost the entire organization afterwards…maybe make that really clear when you talked to them in March. Yes they were already going to be hit by overages. Yes they preferred not burning the year. No…I don’t buy for one second that they wouldn’t have reversed course and signed you with that ultimatum.

To go from I want to sign now to I’m never signing like that…yeesh. There is a conversation missing in between those things that it’s clear listening to Philly was never had. I doubt he’ll ever give a definitive answer as to what happened. He wouldn’t even tell them when it mattered.

It's also possible that the regime change disrupted smooth communication with Gauthier and his family advisor since that happened at around the time Gauthier's NCAA season ended. Perhaps someone in the Flyer old boy network said something that didn't sit well with Gauthier's camp. It's not like Buffalo hasn't seen two players both decide to go in another direction after regime changes in both Portillo and Petersen.
 

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I don't like Zegras as a person. The player I saw in his pre-draft years is not the guy he is now. He's extremely easy to dislike.
That could be true.
Zegras is sizzle when the Sabres need steak, IMO.
The Sabres could use a game breaking scorer who can still score when games get tight. Zegras is that type of player, acknowledging that the team needs a lot more grit.

A Zegras move would have to be in combination with other moves.

Eg: use assets to-

- trade for Zegras
- trade for Brady Tkachuk
- trade for Coleman and Weegar
 

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He's got 7 points this year in 20 games and has a career high of 65. How this player got so overrated I'll never understand. A lot of our prospects will probably end up better. Mittelstadt is already better. Not worth any legit pieces. The guy sucks
I thought he was properly rated. If you're going to compare players, can you at least attempt to make it fair of the comparison? Like, I don't know, Cozens of where they are in their careers?

Casey has 3 seasons on Zegras, and interesting enough, his game just started to around 3 seasons ago. Casey in his 1st-4th NHL seasons, I'll easily take Zegras over him. Now, Casey, while maybe not as talented as Zegras, has an overall better two-way game. But there's plenty of time for Zegras to learn that side of the game. And for the record, I would definitely compare Casey and Trevor as prospects and the potential of what they could be.
 

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The Sabres could use a game breaking scorer who can still score when games get tight. Zegras is that type of player, acknowledging that the team needs a lot more grit.

A Zegras move would have to be in combination with other moves.

Eg: use assets to-

- trade for Zegras
- trade for Brady Tkachuk
- trade for Coleman and Weegar
Zegras is not that guy. Plus, the Sabres need more 200 foot guys and Zegras really is not that guy.

And while I would love guys like Tkachuk and Weegar, I just don't buy that they will be available.
 

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Zegras is not that guy. Plus, the Sabres need more 200 foot guys and Zegras really is not that guy.

And while I would love guys like Tkachuk and Weegar, I just don't buy that they will be available.

If the Flames are truly committed to a rebuild, I could see Weegar not wanting any part of that and asking out quietly.

If Tkachuk is really available -- he's a guy that I would put anything on the table for except Dahlin. But I just can't imagine that Ottawa would be that stupid to trade him.
 

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If the Flames are truly committed to a rebuild, I could see Weegar not wanting any part of that and asking out quietly.

If Tkachuk is really available -- he's a guy that I would put anything on the table for except Dahlin. But I just can't imagine that Ottawa would be that stupid to trade him.
They have 3 D on their NHL roster that are under team control beyond 23-24:

Weegar, Andersson, & Kuznetsov (RFA). Even if Weegar quietly asked out, I don't see how they could do it. They have to have some guys that can play D next season.

And they only have 3 AHL D that are under team control beyond 23-24.
 
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