Around the NHL 2024 - Offseason Moves

[Porter Stoutheart]

Anyway, point being teams can win or lose(/not win a Cup anyway) with big concentrations of large contracts. Again, it all comes down to how well they manage the rest of their budget. I would gladly accept the challenge of building a team around a McDavid/Draisatl duo for 15-20 years. If I didn't win a Cup during that span, wow, that should go down as sheer managerial incompetence.

So far the Oilers have done a fine job of demonstrating sheer managerial incompetence. McDavid has played 9 years in the league so far. They made it to the Finals last season, at last. Adding Ekholm has been huge for them. They still have him, plus I do think they have slightly improved their forward depth since last season as well. So that's a Finals team + improvements already. No reason they shouldn't continue to compete. Well, aside from demonstrating additional levels of managerial incompetence... which is very much a possibility with Bowman on board.

Ekholm and Arvy winning a Cup would be nice.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

I think the biggest difference in those teams and the Leafs is that those winning teams had a Goalie step up and win some games for them. Chicago also had two decent D-men in Keith and Seabrook while the Pens had Letang and Schultz.

Eh...Hyman was a good 3rd on offence and Bouchard was one of the best D last year.

 

[herzausstein]

McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Ekholm, Bouchard are all pulling their weight.

Arvidsson will help with the depth if he can stay healthy.

Henrique is a great addition.

Skinner has offense but for a team of already questionable defense... this is a more questionable choice.

Nurse's contract is bad but he is still somewhat useful.

The rest of the defense is a complete hodgepodge of 3rd pairing players and a wildcard in Emberson. They dont have anyone like Broberg ready to step up should injuries occur or the defense struggles.

I mostly like what they did on the offensive side of things but their defense is still weak and i forsee their goalies struggling again. Theyll likely be able to outscore that deficiency more often then not though.

 

[Ben Grimm]

What do you think?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

What do you think? I say not too shabby.

Yeah, sometimes somebody tries to get "too cute" with one of these lists. Whereas these things instead benefit from more of a broad historic consensus perspective, which I think this list seems to mostly get right. I'm sure some people would nitpick over who the actual #1 goalie of All-Time is, but I think Roy is at least one of the names in the mix, so it's fine.

 

[BigFatCat999]

Yeah, sometimes somebody tries to get "too cute" with one of these lists. Whereas these things instead benefit from more of a broad historic consensus perspective, which I think this list seems to mostly get right. I'm sure some people would nitpick over who the actual #1 goalie of All-Time is, but I think Roy is at least one of the names in the mix, so it's fine.

Mine is a minor nitpick of Hasek vs Roy, but not bad

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I'd have Ovechkin there over at least Messier, Harvey, or Roy, though I get the latter 2 are there as much to break up the forwardfest as much as anything else.

And I realize they were trying to avoid recency bias but I would have accepted Lidstrom as an alternative defenseman and provably wouldn't have scoffed at Jagr's inclusion as well.

 

[Ben Grimm]

I'd have Ovechkin there over at least Messier, Harvey, or Roy, though I get the latter 2 are there as much to break up the forward fest as much as anything else. And I realize they were trying to avoid recency bias, but I would have accepted Lidstrom as an alternative defenseman and probably wouldn't have scoffed at Jagr's inclusion as well.

Your post is so Cali. OV top 13? I was totally wrong about the list, because I didn't notice all the omissions. The Top Thirteen players in alphabetical order are:

Beliveau,
Bourque,
Crosby,
Gretzky,
Harvey,
Howe,
Hull,
Lemieux,
Lidstrom,
Orr,
Richard,
Roy,
Shore.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Your post is so Cali. OV top 13? I was totally wrong about the list, because I didn't notice all the omissions. The Top Thirteen players in alphabetical order are:

Beliveau,
Bourque,
Crosby,
Gretzky,
Harvey,
Howe,
Hull,
Lemieux,
Lidstrom,
Orr,
Richard,
Roy,
Shore.

I'm sorry?