Actually having to physically turn in your passport isn't a very common bail practice in the US. However, not leaving the state/country is a very common bond condition and it is pretty easy for law enforcement in your relevant jurisdiction to find out when you are using your passport to get to a different continent. There are definitely high profile and high level cases where forfeiting a passport is a bond condition, but it isn't the standard.Apparently he’s not the only one. Dillion Dubé also signed in the KHL.
Former NHLer charged in sexual assault case, Michael McLeod, signs to play in KHL – Sportsnet.ca
I’m no expert in Canadian law but I guess my assumption would be that if you did that in this country, turning in your passport would be part of any bail process? Idk. Seems odd they’re being allowed to leave the country. The article says the accused are set to return to court in August which is…like now.
I know Ceci is pronounced as "see-see", but it's probably "chechi" in Italian. Must've changed it, like Kyrou.
I'm sure teams have talked to his agent about the possibility, but I also wouldn't be surprised if those discussions never reached the point of a formal offer sheet being presented to him. Dallas isn't in the degree of cap hell Edmonton is so I think it would take a very sizeable AAV to get him out of Dallas. I could see interested teams ultimately deciding that the odds of actually landing him are too low to make it worth the eventual retaliation. He would 100% need to have an AAV high enough to send an unprotected 1st and that brings its own set of risks.I will place a wager that Harley has been tendered at least one offer sheet, but hasn't signed. We'd never know if this has happened unless someone leaks the info.
I thought Byfuglien was pronounced Buh-fugglyI have the same with Bolduc. As a european that name seems very slavic. Too me it's weird that a name written like that is pronounced 'Bol-dook' instead of 'Bol-dootshj'.
And if we get even weirder, why is Byfuglien (Norwegian name?) pronounced as Buff-lin? Questions...
While I tend to agree with this, we should also be careful what we wish for.I'd love to know. I'd also love to see one the closer we get to camp. I'd love to see more and more offer sheets used in the NHL. And I'd love to see a division rival either lose a damn good young player or have to pay much more than hoped/expected to keep that player.
I posted with some Canadian French speakers that I hear Boldjzook. Like they inflect the 'd' to make it sound like 'djz'. They told me I was flat out wrong and that I was just hearing things. Point being, we perceive the same thing in different ways.I have the same with Bolduc. As a european that name seems very slavic. Too me it's weird that a name written like that is pronounced 'Bol-dook' instead of 'Bol-dootshj'.
And if we get even weirder, why is Byfuglien (Norwegian name?) pronounced as Buff-lin? Questions...
It's making me darned curious. You know I've been keeping close tabs on Dallas for a minute. It's been quiet af regarding Harley. The Dallas Stars are really keeping their lips tight on this and good on them for doing so.I'm sure teams have talked to his agent about the possibility, but I also wouldn't be surprised if those discussions never reached the point of a formal offer sheet being presented to him. Dallas isn't in the degree of cap hell Edmonton is so I think it would take a very sizeable AAV to get him out of Dallas. I could see interested teams ultimately deciding that the odds of actually landing him are too low to make it worth the eventual retaliation. He would 100% need to have an AAV high enough to send an unprotected 1st and that brings its own set of risks.
I'd love to know. I'd also love to see one the closer we get to camp. I'd love to see more and more offer sheets used in the NHL. And I'd love to see a division rival either lose a damn good young player or have to pay much more than hoped/expected to keep that player.
It's making me darned curious. You know I've been keeping close tabs on Dallas for a minute. It's been quiet af regarding Harley. The Dallas Stars are really keeping their lips tight on this and good on them for doing so.
I called a Harley holdout, but it could be that will be offered something Dallas can't handle. However, Harley won't go to a shitty team with the cap space to play with OS.
Dallas has enough to bridge him and take care other needs, but they don't have the enough to extend him at term & AAV (ala Guhle vicinity) AND also get done the other things they need to do. They have the money right now only because we took Faksa off their hands.
I posit that Harley does not want to be bridged, otherwise it's a no-brainer and should've been done by now.....if he wanted that. Apparently, he does not want a bridge.
We signed Kyrou to his bridge deal on August 3rd. We didn't get Thomas done on his until September 21. Not having a young RFA signed in August is pretty far from a disaster.This is all making me wonder how Jim Nill won GM of the Year two times in a row. It is his hedging-style of management that has them in this pickle. They overachieved with a roster wrought with age disparity and now their new, young rock star D-man is hedging his own funds.
I know you guys hate this take on Dallas, but most of this is playing out.
It's like all Epiphonous and Angel Heart n stuff.
Okay, but it would be much easier to understand your position if you left out all of that hyperbole. It’s very distracting from the quality of the post.No shitty team is offer sheeting him. No one wants to risk sending a lottery pick in an offer sheet. That's one of the reasons offer sheets are so rare. A team likely (or even just somewhat likely) to finish bottom 10 just absolutely can't send an unprotected 1st as part of an offer sheet.
I think every guy like him would prefer the $60M+ bag to a bridge deal if they have their choice. But that doesn't mean that he's opposed to a bridge deal. You've talked about Seguin being physically broken in the past. It could be as simple as the team waiting for a late summer evaluation on something that could require surgery (like Kane in Edmonton). They very well could have two potential agreements: a bridge if Seguin is playing this year or the long term bag contract if he needs a surgery that lands him on LTIR for the whole year. Or it could be that both sides are fine with a bridge, but they are $2M apart on the dollars for that bridge.
We signed Kyrou to his bridge deal on August 3rd. We didn't get Thomas done on his until September 21. Not having a young RFA signed in August is pretty far from a disaster.
Disagree. Who wants to be the team that gives up chance at Hagens or McKenna? That is the concern. Anyone would likely be willing to give up 10th pick for Harley at this point, but what if that is 1OA? Risk is too high for bad team, as Brian said.Okay, but it would be much easier to understand your position if you left out all of that hyperbole. It’s very distracting from the quality of the post.
A shitty team throwing an OS at Harley and paying the draft capital for him is perfect. He’s a former first rounder who is developing extremely well.
But Harley is already shaping up to be an excellent #2 D. Defensive prospects can take a while to shine, if at all.Disagree. Who wants to be the team that gives up chance at Hagens or McKenna? That is the concern. Anyone would likely be willing to give up 10th pick for Harley at this point, but what if that is 1OA? Risk is too high for bad team, as Brian said.
Nobody is disputing that.But Harley is already shaping up to be an excellent #2 D. Defensive prospects can take a while to shine, if at all.
Having a much more developed and somewhat proven NHL D right now is worth it to me.
This is the same as our ideas we’ve discussed to get our #1D through a trade. A Harley-aged defenseman with some proof of concept and tons of upside.
I have the same with Bolduc. As a european that name seems very slavic. Too me it's weird that a name written like that is pronounced 'Bol-dook' instead of 'Bol-dootshj'.
And if we get even weirder, why is Byfuglien (Norwegian name?) pronounced as Buff-lin? Questions...
I posted with some Canadian French speakers that I hear Boldjzook. Like they inflect the 'd' to make it sound like 'djz'. They told me I was flat out wrong and that I was just hearing things. Point being, we perceive the same thing in different ways.
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I'll bet ya the Ceci family is from somewhere between Bologna and Venice.
It's not hyperbole. A shitty team has a legit chance at a top 3 pick. They aren't giving that up to get a guy like Harley who is shaping up to be an excellent #2D. You can't lottery protect the picks given up in an offer sheet. You have to make the offer sheet months before you know where you're going to pick and a shitty team has a good chance of their pick being very high in the draft.Okay, but it would be much easier to understand your position if you left out all of that hyperbole. It’s very distracting from the quality of the post.
A shitty team throwing an OS at Harley and paying the draft capital for him is perfect. He’s a former first rounder who is developing extremely well.
The hyperbole came in the form of your characterization of my positions.It's not hyperbole. A shitty team has a legit chance at a top 3 pick. They aren't giving that up to get a guy like Harley who is shaping up to be an excellent #2D. You can't lottery protect the picks given up in an offer sheet. You have to make the offer sheet months before you know where you're going to pick and a shitty team has a good chance of their pick being very high in the draft.
Harley is not good enough for a team with a legit chance at a top 3 pick to give up their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. That is the absolute bare minimum to have a chance to land Harley and it might take two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd.