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i thought the Ducks were historically bad last season, but then Sharks just had to go and one up us. how are they THIS bad
 
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Sucks to lose Thrun but the Ducks got a prime asset for him for sure...that third rounder is in all likelihood gonna be a low thirdy.

Hopefully the Pittsburgh one will be as well (although I think they are better than their current record indicates).
 
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San Jose probably won't challenge for the playoffs until 2030. We were a bad hockey team, but San Jose is on a whole other level right now.....and at least we had quite a promising prospect pool.

San Jose have almost nothing outside of Eklund (who I'm not convinced ends up as anything more then a 2nd line forward) and Smith it seems like. It's going to take at least 3 more drafts for them to stock up and then have the young players actually develop. Grim for them.
 
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This Sharks game is sadder than any Ducks game I’ve watched over the last few years. Not even a hint of positivity.
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The question of those games for me is always, how much Quinn Hughes is in Olen Zellweger?

mightyquack said:
San Jose probably won't challenge for the playoffs until 2030. We were a bad hockey team, but San Jose is on a whole other level right now.....and at least we had quite a promising prospect pool.

San Jose have almost nothing outside of Eklund (who I'm not convinced ends up as anything more then a 2nd line forward) and Smith it seems like. It's going to take at least 3 more drafts for them to stock up and then have the young players actually develop. Grim for them.
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They will at least get one heck of a player in this years draft. The top 3-5 look very good.
 
sharks will likely end up with either celebrini or eiserman which should speed things up for them a bit, but they're still going to be awful for a while. they're somehow even worse than last year's ducks team

their D and goaltending is a whole different level of terrible
 
I started watching the Sharks game to see what was wrong with the team this year. After a while I started looking to see if they were doing anything right. They really should have Thrun up to at least give him NHL experience. He cannot possibly be worse than all of their other defensemen.
 
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I started watching the Sharks game to see what was wrong with the team this year. After a while I started looking to see if they were doing anything right. They really should have Thrun up to at least give him NHL experience. He cannot possibly be worse than all of their other defensemen.
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My first thought is that they are sending him down BECAUSE the team is a dumpster fire and they don't want him around the negativity.

The less charitable thought is that they want to tank hard, know he'll improve the team, and don't want that.

The even less charitable thought is that they're trying to save themselves money in future contract negotiations.
 
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My first thought is that they are sending him down BECAUSE the team is a dumpster fire and they don't want him around the negativity.

The less charitable thought is that they want to tank hard, know he'll improve the team, and don't want that.

The even less charitable thought is that they're trying to save themselves money in future contract negotiations.
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Poor Thrun signed with the Sharks thinking he would make the squad this year. 🤣
 
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Speaking of bad teams, I’m watching SJ now and it’s kind of depressing. Lower bowl already emptier than any of the worst games I saw last year at the Ponda.
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Just watched Shannon's (The Hockey Guy) breakdown of the Sharks, and he mentioned the number. Reportedly 10,719 in PAID attendance last night, that's staggering
 
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The Pens are so f***ed. They are just lucky the 1st that went to SJ was protected, but the 1st SJ gets next year will forsure be a top 10 pick.

They are paying Letang 5 years until age 40...
The are paying Malkin 3 years until 39...

I hope Crosby retires after this contract so they can actually rebuild, but damn it is going to get ugly.
 
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The Pens are so f***ed. They are just lucky the 1st that went to SJ was protected, but the 1st SJ gets next year will forsure be a top 10 pick.

They are paying Letang 5 years until age 40...
The are paying Malkin 3 years until 39...

I hope Crosby retires after this contract so they can actually rebuild, but damn it is going to get ugly.
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They’ve been playing better than the results would indicate. Their PP won’t be terrible forever. Still, they aren’t exactly in a position where they can just wait for things to even out.
 
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I’d like to think I have a pulse on what’s going in the league, but I just don’t understand the Sabres at all. I know that there are a lot of young players there, but it feels like there’s too much top-end talent for them to be this big of an enigma in terms of consistency and chemistry.
 
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Really tough seeing Jack Hughes go down, he was playing amazing. Hope for him it’s short term and nothing major.
 
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The Pens are so f***ed. They are just lucky the 1st that went to SJ was protected, but the 1st SJ gets next year will forsure be a top 10 pick.

They are paying Letang 5 years until age 40...
The are paying Malkin 3 years until 39...

I hope Crosby retires after this contract so they can actually rebuild, but damn it is going to get ugly.
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With only 3 years left I am sure they can dump Malkin on another team.
I predict in 2026 draft lottery the Penguins jump from #5 to #1 overall pick and select McKenna.
Chicago got its Kane level replacement immediately in form of Bedard, Pittsburgh is gonna get McKenna in 2026.

SJ will probably get ripped off in 2024 drop from #1 to #3 and select Levshuvnov while Chicago moves from #3 to #1 again and selects Celebrini and Pittsburgh jumps to #2 and selects Eiserman.
Levshuvnov, Thrun and Shakir is a massively improved D for SJ.
 
Great explanation and detail. Reading this I couldn't help but think our scouts have similar thought process when we valued Leo and Mason the past few years who were playing men but did it not because their physical tools (albeit they're considered bigg-ish vs their peers). While picking them, we surprised people. Kind of similar but opposite to what MTL did.

Anyways, this was interesting to read and watch.
 
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Just watched Shannon's (The Hockey Guy) breakdown of the Sharks, and he mentioned the number. Reportedly 10,719 in PAID attendance last night, that's staggering
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Sharks have had horrible attendance post-Covid, they'll have back to back sub 14k attendance seasons which we haven't had since the early 00's.

Heck even last season we were pretty much at 15k....which is staggering given the on ice product that was put out.
 
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Great explanation and detail. Reading this I couldn't help but think our scouts have similar thought process when we valued Leo and Mason the past few years who were playing men but did it not because their physical tools (albeit they're considered bigg-ish vs their peers). While picking them, we surprised people. Kind of similar but opposite to what MTL did.

Anyways, this was interesting to read and watch.
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GM Hughes and his scouting guys he brought in look really bad in hindsight.
Its like they were better off with Bergevin who may have preferred Cooley because he's not afraid to draft skill over size.
 
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