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The PLD experience
 
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Vladys Gumption said:
This PLD trade is a pretty hilarious circus. Do they give up a haul to get him, sign him to a huge extension, and then trade him away a year later for a mid level goalie.

Not a great look for Blake.
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Blake been a fairly crappy gm, but I applaud him for this deal. He realized original PLD deal was a mistake and he got out of that contract with a lot less damage than he might have had if he waited another year to see if they could make it work. Even if Kuemper is done, which he may be, DK contract is far more managable than one he shipped out.

Of course, if PLD rebounds in Washington, as I expect he might, then Blake will own that he overpaid for PLD, couldn’t figure out how to use him, and then gave him away to star in DC. Which brings us back to Blake is a crappy gm who did this all to himself.
 
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We need more trades like this. Cap dumps for cap dumps. Ok so who wants Krug now?
 
Blueston said:
Blake been a fairly crappy gm, but I applaud him for this deal. He realized original PLD deal was a mistake and he got out of that contract with a lot less damage than he might have had if he waited another year to see if they could make it work. Even if Kuemper is done, which he may be, DK contract is far more managable than one he shipped out.

Of course, if PLD rebounds in Washington, as I expect he might, then Blake will own that he overpaid for PLD, couldn’t figure out how to use him, and then gave him away to star in DC. Which brings us back to Blake us a crappy gm who did this all to himself.
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I think you're being exceptionally generous toward Blake.

The trade with Winnipeg was already bad, the PLD extension terrible and now this?

Kupari might be a dud, but Iafallo is an awesome team player and the proverbial glue-type locker room guy. Vilardi is exactly the type of secondary scoring any teams needs and the 2nd rounder for this year is Montreal's at #37. For PLD, a malcontent who doesn't give a shit.

It was either get rid of PLD without a buyout or you're done.
 
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ChicagoBlues said:
I think you're being exceptionally generous toward Blake.

The trade with Winnipeg was already bad, the PLD extension terrible and now this?

Kupari might be a dud, but Iafallo is an awesome team player and the proverbial glue-type locker room guy. Vilardi is exactly the type of secondary scoring any teams needs and the 2nd rounder for this year is Montreal's at #37. For PLD, a malcontent who doesn't give a shit.

It was either get rid of PLD without a buyout or you're done.
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Considering I said he was a crappy gm who did this to himself, it shows how awful he is that you not unreasonably deem that generous.
 
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PJJJP said:
We need more trades like this. Cap dumps for cap dumps. Ok so who wants Krug now?
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Im not sure Army doesnt want to confess he has made mistake with Krug.

So he will plays out his contract.

I view that is good for Blues, keep shitty players. More Krug, Faulk type of dmens and we will eventually be lottery team possibility to get #1 pick.

Only way out of this shithole nowhwreland 'pretender'.
 
Ranksu said:
Im not sure Army doesnt want to confess he has made mistake with Krug.

So he will plays out his contract.

I view that is good for Blues, keep shitty players. More Krug, Faulk type of dmens and we will eventually be lottery team possibility to get #1 pick.

Only way out of this shithole nowhwreland 'pretender'.
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He already admitted his mistake when he tried to trade him last summer
 
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SirPaste said:
He already admitted his mistake when he tried to trade him last summer
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Zackly! We don't need a Truth and Reconciliation Council, unless Lord Army (GM in Perpetuity) leads The Council thereby avoiding direct responsibility. It's all worked out.
 
Beauterham said:
Maybe we should try to waive him first, hoping Grier is still on whatever he was on while claiming Goodrow.
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Exactly. You know how much it costs to waive someone? Nothing. Nothing to lose by trying. lol. I guess DA would be throwing away some value as he did have someone on the hook to trade last year but in the grand scheme of things... I'd be ok with a waiver dump. Does that circumvent the no trade clause of a player?
 
LogosBlue said:
Exactly. You know how much it costs to waive someone? Nothing. Nothing to lose by trying. lol. I guess DA would be throwing away some value as he did have someone on the hook to trade last year but in the grand scheme of things... I'd be ok with a waiver dump. Does that circumvent the no trade clause of a player?
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No, wouldn’t violate the NTC. That’s quite literally the difference between a NTC and NMC. A NTC covers, as the name would suggest, only covers trades. A NMC covers all movements, ie. includes waivers.

That said, I can’t see a team willing to take 100% of Krug’s contract for nothing. The Flyers we’re willing to do it but only if we took on all 8 years of Sanheim’s $50M contract.
 
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LogosBlue said:
Does that circumvent the no trade clause of a player?
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That could quite literally be what happened to Goodrow. It is rumored that Goodrow used his NTC not to be traded to SJ. So the Rangers waived him and SJ claimed him anyway.

Was this the plan all along? If so it's circumvention. But there is probably no way to prove it, so NYR/SJ will get away with it.
 
Celtic Note said:
Remember when the Blues were pointing to LA as an example of the model to follow?
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I'm so excited for our 2d overall pick, our 5th overall pick and our 10th overall pick so that we can copy LA. Doug actually said the Blues were going to copy LA and also keep trying to make the playoffs. So silly. That is why he had to go, not a straight shooter
 
Beauterham said:
That could quite literally be what happened to Goodrow. It is rumored that Goodrow used his NTC not to be traded to SJ. So the Rangers waived him and SJ claimed him anyway.

Was this the plan all along? If so it's circumvention. But there is probably no way to prove it, so NYR/SJ will get away with it.
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I disagree about this being circumvention. Nothing in a not trade clause says you can’t be waived. So that always the risk the player takes in refusing a trade.

Stupendous Yappi said:
Being stubborn about not cutting bait would look worse.
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Totally agree. It’s just a terrible decision all around from the initial acqusition to now.
 
I don't think Blake realized anything. He would've been all too willing to be stubborn all the way to the grave.

I'll place a large wager that someone above Luc (he is a problem too) forced Blake to do this. He didn't have some sort of come-to-Jesus moment or a bonk-on-the-head epiphany.

DA got caught basking in the post-Cup coital glow and has mostly been a stubborn mule to the organization's detriment. There comes a time when the decision is not in the hands of the "decision-maker".

During this Blues' defense conundrum, I've caught myself making excuses for DA and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Blake AND Luc get no apologies from me.
 
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