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Series Talk: Around the NHL - 2018 Stanley Cup Playoffs - Second Round

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Who will advance to the Conference Finals

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aufheben said:
Tbh who cares what the Isles do. Tavares will walk, they'll be mediocre until Barzal is a UFA and he walks too, then the cycle will begin again.
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Now that they didn't win the lottery, I feel better about JT leaving.

I don't really care what they do as long as they don't make smart decisions. Lou to NYI would be hilarious for us.
 
Gresch04 said:
Because it's NY. I'm from NJ and living outside of Cleveland for the last few years. I can't fathom how "understanding" Cleveland fans are of their abysmal Browns. NY/NJ fans burned their season tickets when the NY Giants faltered under Ray Perkins. I LOVE it. Fans should be demanding and not take year after year of garbage like Browns fans - well make that Cleveland fans. They do the same for the Indians and Cavs (including welcoming Lebron back when he said FU and went to Miami).
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It's about relative importance and stress too. I've lived in NY most of my life (minus 3.5 years I was in DC and a few months back and forth in Cali now and then). Thing with NY is and I don't mean to come off as extremely negative, but let's be real: it's the most intense and stress filled city there is in North America. Everyone works hard, is ultra competitive, operating at Warp Speed 24/7. People in the region and that's also LI/Westchester/Rockland pretty much up until Albany, you're supposed to be tired and miserable. Our vices become that much more intense. I know people who operate their entire free time around their favorite sports team(s). I'm not saying it's not that way in Cleveland or Michigan or of course Pittsburgh (where they'll go into the usual "Oh we're so blue collar this is how America should be" diatribe), but we as NYers pound are chest just a little harder, cheer just a little louder, bleed just a little more over these teams.
 
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Carolina has 8,000 really good forwards and will be adding Svechnikov and six really good DMen. They're problem was their goalies couldn't stop a beach ball. They need someone to split time with Darling or play 60% of the starts, while Colorado needs goaltending depth because Varlamov is very injury prone. Really not much on the market unless they want to trade for one of Philly's three goalies.
 
I've been saying it for months: what's Georgiev worth to the right team?

22-year-old, Allaire-trained kid with 2 years left on his ELC, who demonstrated all the qualities of a starting goaltender in an extended audition this year...?
 
Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
I've been saying it for months: what's Georgiev worth to the right team?

22-year-old, Allaire-trained kid with 2 years left on his ELC, who demonstrated all the qualities of a starting goaltender in an extended audition this year...?
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Not a whole lot until he does it for longer.

If he does what he did this season in an extended look next season, then the conversation changes, perhaps even to the point of whether or not we should actually keep him.
 
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White Plains Batman said:
Carolina has 8,000 really good forwards and will be adding Svechnikov and six really good DMen. They're problem was their goalies couldn't stop a beach ball. They need someone to split time with Darling or play 60% of the starts, while Colorado needs goaltending depth because Varlamov is very injury prone. Really not much on the market unless they want to trade for one of Philly's three goalies.
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They also need a top-6 center.

Staal and Rask isn’t Montreal bad but it’s not good.
 
Next year (well more like this fall) is a huge year for the top four goalies in the Rangers organization. Lundqvist needs to bounce back, Georgiev has to continue to impress, the Shetyorkin to NY clock begins , and Huska has to make a decision about his senior year. Expansion is coming. Rangers won't want to lose Georgiev for nothing. What if Georgiev/Shestyorkin are outperforming Lundqvist. Do they buy out the final year of his contract? He'll be 38. His number is going up to the rafters regardless of the Sept 2018-Sept-2020.
 
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Imagine killing a 5 on 3 and dominating all period and then right as you’re about to finish the first up 1, JT miller goes headless chicken and Boston scores
 
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Vinny DeAngelo said:
Georgiev or if those people of questionable intelligence want to trade him some ufa retread
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Ah yes, I propose a trade which I think has a faint, outside chance of being fair value for the #2 OA pick where we could grab Svechnikov, and I have questionable intelligence for including Georgiev.

Because this team A) shouldn't do anything it can to get young superstar forwards, B) is clearly primed to compete next year, so how dare I suggest trading our backup goalie of all players, C) doesn't have Shestyorkin and three other goalies in the pipeline behind Georgiev, and D) has had so much difficulty filling the backup's position over the last 10-15 years, even when the kids weren't ready.

Of course, how silly of me. I apologize for offending your sensibilities, oh wise one.
 
On Johnson's goal, Rask did his weird 'move-to-the-totally-wrong-spot-to-allow-an-easy-goal' move again.
He does that now and then, it is completely noticeable, and it is brutal.
 
I’m not sure which I’m confused more on in the 2nd Tampa goal. What Rask was doing? Or whether or not McDonagh forgot for a second he plays for the Lightning.

Because Rask was completely off his mark. And McDonagh had that body language we’ve seen a million times after allowing a goal, except his team scored it.
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
I question anyone’s intelligence who wants a 22 year old goaltender to ride the pine all year instead of working on his game every night in the minors
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Depends on the situation, but its not really a stretch to say Georgiev would be better served with 25 starts and getting time with Allaire everyday
 
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
Ah yes, I propose a trade which I think has a faint, outside chance of being fair value for the #2 OA pick where we could grab Svechnikov, and I have questionable intelligence for including Georgiev.

Because this team A) shouldn't do anything it can to get young superstar forwards, B) is clearly primed to compete next year, so how dare I suggest trading our backup goalie of all players, C) doesn't have Shestyorkin and three other goalies in the pipeline behind Georgiev, and D) has had so much difficulty filling the backup's position over the last 10-15 years, even when the kids weren't ready.

Of course, how silly of me. I apologize for offending your sensibilities, oh wise one.
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I'll pass if that's fair value. ("Hayes + Georgiev + Vesey (they also need size up front) + the BOS/TBL 1st rounder...")

That's giving up a whole lot of young NHL players + a 1st rounder to move up in the draft. I'll pick 9th, have a dependable (seemingly), and cheap, backup for my 36 year old goalie, a solid 2nd line center, a work in progress winger and a pick later in the draft than trade that to move up to 2nd.

Shesty is two years away and, if Georgiev has a backup season anywhere near how he performed down the stretch, he'll be an even more valuable trade chip in the future.

If this included older vets with big paydays coming up than I'm all in. I'm not all in for moving out a ton of NHL youth for a draft pick. We're thin enough at center as it is given that we don't know what we have yet in Chytil and Andersson.
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
I question anyone’s intelligence who wants a 22 year old goaltender to ride the pine all year instead of working on his game every night in the minors
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You'd have to hope that whoever the coach is gets a guy like Georgiev 25+ starts next year if he's our backup. I'll take that over 50 AHL games any day of the week. I'm sure he'd learn a thing or two from that other goalie in the locker room.
 
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