Around The NHL #13

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I think people fall victim to self limiting beliefs a lot too though.

Agree.

you can always make more money down the road

Agree too. As long as you're not going into debt that has to be paid off down the road.

Edit: Couldn't agree more about time with your kids being invaluable. Mine is graduating high school this year. Awesome experience being a dad.
 
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A friend of ours tried to get the Coyotes to have a player call on our son when he was dying. It would seem that at the age of 24 (rabid fan, or not), he wasn’t young/cute enough for a visit that didn’t include publicity.
Once again though our account rep was excellent, not sarcasm…. truth.

That's a bummer. Sad to hear all that.
 
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Agree.



Agree too. As long as you're not going into debt that has to be paid off down the road.

Edit: Couldn't agree more about time with your kids being invaluable. Mine is graduating high school this year. Awesome experience being a dad.
Exciting, congrats! My wife took a leap of faith and started her own online business three years ago…I help her out with some of the work now but initially she was putting in crazy hours to get it off the ground, so to support her in that I was the one to stay home and manage the house and kids. Can be a bit of a struggle mentally sometimes as a man in that role because it’s not really how we’re wired…but I’m grateful for the time I’ve been able to spend with them as youngsters. Wouldn’t trade it for anything.
 
Exciting, congrats! My wife took a leap of faith and started her own online business three years ago…I help her out with some of the work now but initially she was putting in crazy hours to get it off the ground, so to support her in that I was the one to stay home and manage the house and kids. Can be a bit of a struggle mentally sometimes as a man in that role because it’s not really how we’re wired…but I’m grateful for the time I’ve been able to spend with them as youngsters. Wouldn’t trade it for anything.
That's awesome. My daughter's mom and I got divorced when she was 2. She doesn't even recall us together lol. Anyways, I had her 2 days/nights per week religiously. Learned how to use "absence makes the heart grow fonder" as a good thing and make me a better dad. I never missed an event, even though I live 45 minutes away. It was special because it was just the two of us for two days a week bonding and she knew I was always coming to get her.

Anyways, my experience wasn't even traditional and it was freakin' amazing. We are very close and her mom and I work well together as exes. So good that my daughter, her cousin, half-brother, step-dad, mom and I all went to see the Foo Fighters the other week. It's so strange how things turned out haha. Never in a million years...

Anyways, I guess I'd better let us get back on topic lol.
 
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That's awesome. My daughter's mom and I got divorced when she was 2. She doesn't even recall us together lol. Anyways, I had her 2 days/nights per week religiously. Learned how to use "absence makes the heart grow fonder" as a good thing and make me a better dad. I never missed an event, even though I live 45 minutes away. It was special because it was just the two of us for two days a week bonding and she knew I was always coming to get her.

Anyways, my experience wasn't even traditional and it was freakin' amazing. We are very close and her mom and I work well together as exes. So good that my daughter, her cousin, half-brother, step-dad, mom and I all went to see the Foo Fighters the other week. It's so strange how things turned out haha. Never in a million years...

Anyways, I guess I'd better let us get back on topic lol.
Haha yeah what is this? Oh yeah, “Around the NHL…” Oilers suck ;)
 
True for a lot of people…but I also know people that have monthly daycare payments that just about equal one household member’s monthly income, so it confuses me why they do it. Having kids and then spending two hours a day with them seems silly, and not really healthy for anyone. Sucks.
Bingo. And we wonder why we are having the problems we have with our youth. The most precious possession we can have are our children, then we let someone else raise them for the first six years of their life. Boggles my mind.
 
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Back when I was a kid (I'm 48 now) it was still possible (and common) for one parent to work while the other stayed home and raised the kids and still have a nice lifestyle. Now-a-days it's mostly necessary for both parents to work to make ends meet. Daycare isn't usually a choice but a necessity. Blame the increases in the cost of living outpacing income, not the parents IMO. A dollar doesn't go near as far as it used to.
Don't have kids. Look, if you can't afford to have kids, don't have any. If you can't afford a Porsche you don't buy one, or even look at one. Take responsibility and stop pointing fingers. All you are doing is hurting your family,

Yep, lots of moving parts. I think people fall victim to self limiting beliefs a lot too though. They’re conditioned to the norms and think anything outside of it isn’t possible or is too hard. Sometimes it requires a leap of faith which is hard. People have to do what they’ve gotta do to put food on the table and keep the lights on first and foremost…but I’ve always looked at it from the perspective that you can always make more money down the road in life…the time you have with your kids when they’re young is invaluable and you don’t ever get it back or get a second crack at it.
Great post.:nod:
 
Don't have kids. Look, if you can't afford to have kids, don't have any. If you can't afford a Porsche you don't buy one, or even look at one. Take responsibility and stop pointing fingers. All you are doing is hurting your family,

Life is nowhere near that black and white, Jakey, and I suspect you know that. There are people who use daycare as a crutch to support their own selfishness, but those are the minority. I never sent my kids to daycare because my wife and I agreed that I would work and she'd stay home, but we barely made it through and only by carrying a lot of debt for a large portion of our kids' lives. Our youngest kid just went off to college and now, with my wife and I both working, we finally can afford to go out to dinner once or twice a month. And we are the lucky ones.
 
Don't have kids. Look, if you can't afford to have kids, don't have any. If you can't afford a Porsche you don't buy one, or even look at one. Take responsibility and stop pointing fingers. All you are doing is hurting your family,
Wow. That's short sighted and actually offensive. Having a kid and having a family shouldn't be a luxury item. It's pretty easy to make a statement like that when it's a dilemma you did not have simply because of when you were born.

Studies show that:

Since the 70's wages increased about 57%. Meanwhile the average CPI more than quadrupled.

"Gen Z's money has 86% less buying power than baby boomers' did at the same age."

"Gen Zers and millennials are paying 57% more per gallon of gas than boomers."

"Gen Zers are paying nearly 100% more for homes than baby boomers did."

"The cost of American housing rose rapidly... Coupled with rising inflation... raised interest rates several times...leaving home buying costs out of reach for many Americans."

Add things like how much more a 20% downpayment on a home cost now compared to when you bought your first home.

So, how do we take responsibility for this stuff? Who do we carelessly point our fingers at, as you say? You can ignore it all you want, but it's not always about personal responsibility. It's tough out there and only getting tougher. I think you should give these younger generations a little more credit for the struggles they face that your generation did not.

This is the article I cherry picked from, but I've read plenty more that say the same thing (in general):

Comparing the Costs of Generations (2023) | ConsumerAffairs®.
 
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Wow. That's short sighted and actually offensive. Having a kid and having a family shouldn't be a luxury item. It's pretty easy to make a statement like that when it's a dilemma you did not have.

Studies show that:

Since the 70's wages increased about 57%. Meanwhile the average CPI more than quadrupled.

"Gen Z's money has 86% less buying power than baby boomers' did at the same age."

"Gen Zers and millennials are paying 57% more per gallon of gas."

"Gen Zers are paying nearly 100% more for homes than baby boomers did."

"The cost of American housing rose rapidly... Coupled with rising inflation... raised interest rates several times...leaving home buying costs out of reach for many Americans."

Add things like how much more a 20% downpayment on a home cost now and many other factors.

So, how do we take responsibility for this stuff? Who do we carelessly point our fingers at, as you say? You can ignore it all you want, but it's not always about personal responsibility. It's tough out there and only getting tougher. I think you should give these younger generations a little more credit for the struggles they face that your generation did not.

This is the article I cherry picked from, but I've read plenty more that say the same thing:

Comparing the Costs of Generations (2023) | ConsumerAffairs®.
This is a reality and it always makes me happy when older people acknowledge it and don’t point fingers. Things are not the same as they once were. The things you pointed out are a factor and then add in the lie from the feminists that was sold to women…”You can be a CEO boss lady AND a great wife and mom at same time! Why can’t you have it all girl?!” The fact is that you just can’t…and no one should be expected to carry all that weight in the first place.
 
I know a lot of Canadian families who for high level travel teams pay $10,000, per season, per kid. Registration, tournaments, travel, hotel, food, equipment.
For high level that definitely doesn't shock me. Even for rec hockey $1000 a season is a ridiculous price.
 
Life is nowhere near that black and white, Jakey, and I suspect you know that. There are people who use daycare as a crutch to support their own selfishness, but those are the minority. I never sent my kids to daycare because my wife and I agreed that I would work and she'd stay home, but we barely made it through and only by carrying a lot of debt for a large portion of our kids' lives. Our youngest kid just went off to college and now, with my wife and I both working, we finally can afford to go out to dinner once or twice a month. And we are the lucky ones.
If you and I can do it, most anyone can. It comes down to priorities. God gives you the best gift we as humans can receive and we say we can't afford them, so send them off to daycare. It takes sacrifice's when one has children. If you don't or can't do that, don't have kids. Why should they suffer because you wanted to go out to dinner, or buy that second brand new Lexus, RV, boat etc.
 
Life is nowhere near that black and white, Jakey, and I suspect you know that. There are people who use daycare as a crutch to support their own selfishness, but those are the minority. I never sent my kids to daycare because my wife and I agreed that I would work and she'd stay home, but we barely made it through and only by carrying a lot of debt for a large portion of our kids' lives. Our youngest kid just went off to college and now, with my wife and I both working, we finally can afford to go out to dinner once or twice a month. And we are the lucky ones.

Add private schools to the list.

I attended one in eighth grade (in Ojai, CA). But not that my dad wanted to get rid of me. There were issues between he and my stepmother at the time and he didn’t want me exposed to it. I don’t think he realized that I was already well prepared to put up with it, because I could have (and wanted) to stick through it.

But…. at the same time the experience was okay. Went to a school that was loaded with kids from well known families or business. Robert Carradine was one, another was the nephew of Barry Goldwater. One was a stuck up prick and the other I played golf with. :laugh:

Anyway…. Talking with some of the other kids at the school the story was the same. Parents sent them there while they ran off to Europe or some other jet set location. Then there were the ones who were there because no other school could handle them.

The school itself was a good one. Small class sizes and the teachers were great. I never regretted being there, but I didn’t miss it either.
 
Add private schools to the list.

I attended one in eighth grade (in Ojai, CA). But not that my dad wanted to get rid of me. There were issues between he and my stepmother at the time and he didn’t want me exposed to it. I don’t think he realized that I was already well prepared to put up with it, because I could have (and wanted) to stick through it.

But…. at the same time the experience was okay. Went to a school that was loaded with kids from well known families or business. Robert Carradine was one, another was the nephew of Barry Goldwater. One was a stuck up prick and the other I played golf with. :laugh:

Anyway…. Talking with some of the other kids at the school the story was the same. Parents sent them there while they ran off to Europe or some other jet set location. Then there were the ones who were there because no other school could handle them.

The school itself was a good one. Small class sizes and the teachers were great. I never regretted being there, but I didn’t miss it either.
I'm more or less talking about a childs first six years. Once in school it's totally different.
 
Christian Fischer’s first game in Detroit…

0-0-0. +/-0. 2 PIM 6:59 TOI. 1-0 in FO

Someone on Discord said he took a stick to the face but didn’t miss too many shifts. Obviously in the Wings fourth line and they didn’t get many shifts.
 
Christian Fischer’s first game in Detroit…

0-0-0. +/-0. 2 PIM 6:59 TOI. 1-0 in FO

Someone on Discord said he took a stick to the face but didn’t miss too many shifts. Obviously in the Wings fourth line and they didn’t get many shifts.
Was at the game, in Newark to go to the season opener figured why not. Barely noticed Fischer, wings rolled 3 lines most of the night. Hughes looked unreal, going to be a rough first assignment for our D tomorrow.
 
Was at the game, in Newark to go to the season opener figured why not. Barely noticed Fischer, wings rolled 3 lines most of the night. Hughes looked unreal, going to be a rough first assignment for our D tomorrow.
That first goal off the goalie’s ear was something.
 

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