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But put em all in together?
It's like on this forum, there's no rule against typing the F letter, U letter, C letter, etc. Just don't link them.
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But put em all in together?
It's like on this forum, there's no rule against typing the F letter, U letter, C letter, etc. Just don't link them.
rt
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I think Provorov, Reimer and the Staals were reasonable. And I think Marchand is reasonable. Marchand is right. Those players shouldn’t be forced. And also other players shouldn’t be banned.
I work remotely for a big California based company that makes a really big celebration out of pride month. But it’s not compulsory. There is a very large contingent of Muslims and Christians working for my, company, too. So much so that they also have company sponsored “clubs” just as the LGBTQ group has a “club”. Nobody is forced to pray at work and nobody is forced to celebrate pride. But nobody is prevented from doing their thing and nobody is ostracized.
I think the NHL could very easily do something similar. Rather than warm-ups they could host events and have players opt in for the ones they want. There could be a pride event, and a military event, and big brother big sister and also worship and also Latino heritage, etc. Whatever. All the same stuff. Just make it opt-in. And make a bigger deal of it off to the side or in a certain section. Send Todd Walsh over. Have give always in that area. Have certain players opt in to sponsor it and those players wear the jerseys. Rather then compulsory and directly in the center.
I think that’s how most other companies do this stuff.
My ideas are probably stupid and I definitely don’t know what I’m talking about. But the point is even an idiot like me can cook up a comprise that would be less hated by all sides. Why can’t the NHL, with all that brainpower, do better rather than worse than little ole me?
rt
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Great idea! Put all the nights together in one night. A night only for Gay Latino Service Members who wear Halloween costumes on St Patrick’s Day. Just think of the cross promotion possibilities. Think about them but never say them out loud. Ever. To anyone. Lol.
Coyotedroppings
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All these theme nights are designed to generate more income, by being inclusive, showing they care, or are patriotic. It’s all a bunch of crap that never really bothered me, but its transparency has always been evident.
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Make every night hockey fan night, celebrating all fans, no matter who or what you are
Isn't singling out a specific group from others actually the opposite of inclusive?
Dirty Old Man
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fuchsiaBut put em all in together?
It's like on this forum, there's no rule against typing the F letter, U letter, C letter, etc. Just don't link them.
rt
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We live in a stupid and embarrassing era. What can I say? At least it’s not the hippie era?
Dead Coyote
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Well actually, you need absurd amounts of money, extremely dedicated parents, and a lot of free time or to not care about other things as much (or to just do everything somehow) in order to play hockey.
I wouldn’t say “absurd” amounts of money, depending on the level you want to play at. But yes, the barrier to entry for hockey is definitely higher than a lot of other sports.
Dead Coyote
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Hundreds to thousands of dollars for a sport you play for 6-7 months of the year is pretty absurd.
It doesn't cost much to play in your yard, sure. But to play competitively and travel? Yeah, you're gonna be spending probably upwards of $1000 each season, if not more. Very much out of reach for a large portion of people. Even the ball hockey leagues around here are $300 per person for a season, and those don't require traveling and skates every season. Not to mention sharpening, gas, hotels, extra sticks, other equipment, and of course kids grow exponentially so you can repeat that probably at least 5 times. It's a lot.
Mosby
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One more first overall pick should fix the Oilers.
That's all part of being a parent. You have to sacrifice much when your kids are growing up. That's the problem with many parents today, they don't want to sacrifice, so they send their kids off to daycare and let some $20/hr. person bring them up for their first six years. Ever wonder why we have so many problem with todays youth? It all starts there.
Not many of the kids are going to be in the travel league. If you can't afford $300/yr for your kid or kids then maybe you shouldn't have kids until you can afford them. I agree that the travel leagues are crazy expensive and many can not afford that, but by then the kids are older and can have a part time job. Where there is a will, there is a way. Maybe the parents have to look in the mirror and see where they can save. Everybody cries poor while living in their 3000sf. house, and driving 2 $80k cars parked in their driveway beside their RV and boat.
Now that is funny. I'm going to send out a few texts today to friends and family who live and breath Oilers. Can't wait for their response.
Mosby
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I know a lot of Canadian families who for high level travel teams pay $10,000, per season, per kid. Registration, tournaments, travel, hotel, food, equipment.
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Sometimes teams just want to do the right thing. I've seen the Dbacks send players to PCH to see sick and dying kids, even one in the middle of the night, with absolutely no pub. None. I wouldn't have known if my own work hadn't sent me there at the same times.
Dirty Old Man
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*checks score* oh, my, do the Oilers *still* need to fix their defense and goaltending?
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A friend of ours tried to get the Coyotes to have a player call on our son when he was dying. It would seem that at the age of 24 (rabid fan, or not), he wasn’t young/cute enough for a visit that didn’t include publicity.
Once again though our account rep was excellent, not sarcasm…. truth.
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Being a parent is about sacrifice, yes, but it's about making sensible sacrifices. I spent my discretionary income on musical instruments, band camps, interstate concerts and events, and etc., rather than hockey. $1000 goes a lot further for the former than it does the latter.
The cost does explain, though, why the biggest concentration of grassroots hockey players in Arizona are concentrated in one nucleus in the Scottsdale/Fountain Hills area, though. You can make fans of hockey anywhere, but you can't generate future stars unless your community poverty level starts at six figures per year...
Not really sure what the answer or solution is, but multiple sports have this issue. Hockey, golf, skiing, snowboarding….high high barriers to entry.Being a parent is about sacrifice, yes, but it's about making sensible sacrifices. I spent my discretionary income on musical instruments, band camps, interstate concerts and events, and etc., rather than hockey. $1000 goes a lot further for the former than it does the latter.
The cost does explain, though, why the biggest concentration of grassroots hockey players in Arizona are concentrated in one nucleus in the Scottsdale/Fountain Hills area, though. You can make fans of hockey anywhere, but you can't generate future stars unless your community poverty level starts at six figures per year...
Arizonatah Coyetis
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Back when I was a kid (I'm 48 now) it was still possible (and common) for one parent to work while the other stayed home and raised the kids and still have a nice lifestyle. Now-a-days it's mostly necessary for both parents to work to make ends meet. Daycare isn't usually a choice but a necessity. Blame the increases in the cost of living outpacing income, not the parents IMO. A dollar doesn't go near as far as it used to.
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True for a lot of people…but I also know people that have monthly daycare payments that just about equal one household member’s monthly income, so it confuses me why they do it. Having kids and then spending two hours a day with them seems silly, and not really healthy for anyone. Sucks.
Arizonatah Coyetis
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I don't disagree. Sure, there's people that are more career oriented than family oriented. But I'd imagine for others that there's a big sacrifice in future income if you leave the workforce for six years to raise your kids. Missed promotions, raises, etc. For many returning to work would be like starting at the bottom again. All the while the world continues to get more expensive around you. For too many people every penny counts. I know people frustrated as hell with what they have left after paying for daycare, but they need that extra money now and they need to continue to grow their income (and savings) for the future. Family ends up being the sacrifice.
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Yep, lots of moving parts. I think people fall victim to self limiting beliefs a lot too though. They’re conditioned to the norms and think anything outside of it isn’t possible or is too hard. Sometimes it requires a leap of faith which is hard. People have to do what they’ve gotta do to put food on the table and keep the lights on first and foremost…but I’ve always looked at it from the perspective that you can always make more money down the road in life…the time you have with your kids when they’re young is invaluable and you don’t ever get it back or get a second crack at it.
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That, right there, what you describe, would mean much more to me, as an observing fan, than any “theme night”. As mentioned before, the fake support for cash is transparent, while what you describe cannot be mistaken.
