Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[trebendan]

Lots can happen in 2 years with regards to contracts and the cap.

Also, if Heinola takes Schmidt's spot, when the team is healthy of course, where does newly acquired Zaitsev fit in?

You've got Morrissey-DeMelo, Dillon-Heinola (in place of Schmidt), Stanley or Samberg with Pionk. Where's righty Zaitsev go? You could do the easy thing and keep Zaitsev on the 3rd pairing right side with say Heinola/Samberg/Stanley, move Pionk up with Dillon. I think then you've needlessly made your team worse to worry about a problem in 2024.

Zaitsev would either be in the press box or on the Moose.

 

[Jet]

Lots can happen in 2 years with regards to contracts and the cap.

Also, if Heinola takes Schmidt's spot, when the team is healthy of course, where does newly acquired Zaitsev fit in?

You've got Morrissey-DeMelo, Dillon-Heinola (in place of Schmidt), Stanley or Samberg with Pionk. Where's righty Zaitsev go? You could do the easy thing and keep Zaitsev on the 3rd pairing right side with say Heinola/Samberg/Stanley, move Pionk up with Dillon. I think then you've needlessly made your team worse to worry about a problem in 2024.

The good thing is, Chevy would never do this deal.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Taking on Zaitsev right now would be moving out a very serviceable mid-pair D for one that is being vastly overpaid for their production, all to save $900k. The only way that trade makes sense is if Zaitsev comes back with a very good prospect or a 2nd round pick, because Ottawa isn't giving up their 1st this year to get out of a bad contract. Even then, I'm not doing it. If we're trading a D, I'd want it to go towards shoring up the forward depth, not to get worse on D.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I think the only question now with the Panthers is when is Paul Marie’s gonna get fired. if they lose to the Rangers tonight they are two games under 500 and almost 10 points out of a playoff spot.

True. And if you look at Wins and Losses after the loss to the Rangers, they are 16 Wins, 22 Losses. They are 6 games below 0.500 Ws and Ls. And 3-7-0 in their last 10 games. Thank goodness Paul fired himself for us.

 

[tbcwpg]

Zaitsev would either be in the press box or on the Moose.

I'd rather pay Schmidt $5.9m for 3 years to play than Zaitsev $4.9m for 2 years to play with the Moose or sit in the press box. That's an even worse proposition than just replacing Schmidt in the lineup with Zaitsev.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Chipman sure had an “odd” blind spot for Paul.
I doubt Maurice finishes the season at this rate.
The Florida boards are painting a very familiar picture to what we witnessed here the last 3 seasons Mo was here.
Too bad you hate to see people struggling but he’s probably done soon.

Fla down to 47.4 p%, 3-7 in their last 10, 7th place in the Atlantic, 7th, -7 in goal differential.

Goalie Bob is down to 89.4 sv%. That's not on Mo. But he continues to get more starts than Knight. That is on Mo.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yeah, Marty St Louis might make a good coach for Bedard.


Montreal owns Florida's 2023 first
Chiarot would be able to brag for the rest of his life that he was traded as a rental for Bedard.

Edit: May or may not be top 10 protected

Read through CF description of the conditions 3 times. Pretty sure it is unprotected. Not 100% sure though.

 

[None]

Read through CF description of the conditions 3 times. Pretty sure it is unprotected. Not 100% sure though.

Yeah, the UI on Capfriendly to me says unprotected but the language kind of reads like it might be protected

Usually a pick with conditions that might affect whether the team gets a particular pick will have an asterisk beside it on Capfriendly and the Florida 2023 pick doesn't have one. I've seen some people say it's top 10 protected and others say it's not, so I edited it because I didn't really care enough to put much thought into it.

I thought it was unprotected when I originally posted that though.

 

[DRW204]

Beleive they lost krug as well long term recently.

Maybe it's recency bias but feels like lots of injuries this year.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Fla down to 47.4 p%, 3-7 in their last 10, 7th place in the Atlantic, 7th, -7 in goal differential.

Goalie Bob is down to 89.4 sv%. That's not on Mo. But he continues to get more starts than Knight. That is on Mo.

You could say Hellebucyk’s playing/winning wasn’t on Maurice either.
Looking at the Florida board it seems like a lot of similarities in general to what was going on here the last several years as far as systems and player usage as you have pointed out.
I don’t dislike Maurice at all, I just don’t think he’s going to be around next season for Florida unless there a major change soon.
He may get canned prior to the end of season as well.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yeah, the UI on Capfriendly to me says unprotected but the language kind of reads like it might be protected

Usually a pick with conditions that might affect whether the team gets a particular pick will have an asterisk beside it on Capfriendly and the Florida 2023 pick doesn't have one. I've seen some people say it's top 10 protected and others say it's not, so I edited it because I didn't really care enough to put much thought into it.

I thought it was unprotected when I originally posted that though.

Complicated string of deals and conditions. It was the 22 1st that was protected. After that condition was decided, the rest were not protected, is the way I read it.

 

[tbcwpg]

Beleive they lost krug as well long term recently.

Maybe it's recency bias but feels like lots of injuries this year.

There does seem to be a lot of injuries this year.

I also think that the West playoff picture is fairly set. I don't really see any of the chasing teams being able to do anything to get back in it. The order is up in the air but I think there's at best 1 spot up for grabs at this point. It's a weak conference.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

True. And if you look at Wins and Losses after the loss to the Rangers, they are 16 Wins, 22 Losses. They are 6 games below 0.500 Ws and Ls. And 3-7-0 in their last 10 games. Thank goodness Paul fired himself for us.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Well he wasn’t wrong when he said this team had a lot of potential and that he wasn’t the guy to get them over the line.
Much respect for the honesty.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Fla down to 47.4 p%, 3-7 in their last 10, 7th place in the Atlantic, 7th, -7 in goal differential.

Goalie Bob is down to 89.4 sv%. That's not on Mo. But he continues to get more starts than Knight. That is on Mo.

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Old article. Still relevant (perhaps more than ever)

Does Paul Maurice make his goalies worse than they actually are? – Sportsnet.ca

www.sportsnet.ca

Old tweet as well.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

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Old article. Still relevant (perhaps more than ever)

Does Paul Maurice make his goalies worse than they actually are? – Sportsnet.ca

www.sportsnet.ca

Old tweet as well.

Interesting.

Edit: Must look better now, after a few Hellebuyck years.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Well he wasn’t wrong when he said this team had a lot of potential and that he wasn’t the guy to get them over the line.
Much respect for the honesty.

Yeah, just wish he would have shared his honesty with us ~4 years ago.

 

[10Ducky10]

Yeah, the UI on Capfriendly to me says unprotected but the language kind of reads like it might be protected

Usually a pick with conditions that might affect whether the team gets a particular pick will have an asterisk beside it on Capfriendly and the Florida 2023 pick doesn't have one. I've seen some people say it's top 10 protected and others say it's not, so I edited it because I didn't really care enough to put much thought into it.

I thought it was unprotected when I originally posted that though.

There is a small caveat to the first-rounder, in that Florida had a previous trade with the Buffalo Sabres involving a condition on that pick. If the Panthers’ 2022 first-rounder, previously dealt to Buffalo, ends up being a top-10 pick, the 2023 selection goes to Buffalo instead. If this were to happen, the return package may have to be be revisited if that situation hasn’t already been addressed.

 

[None]

There is a small caveat to the first-rounder, in that Florida had a previous trade with the Buffalo Sabres involving a condition on that pick. If the Panthers’ 2022 first-rounder, previously dealt to Buffalo, ends up being a top-10 pick, the 2023 selection goes to Buffalo instead. If this were to happen, the return package may have to be be revisited if that situation hasn’t already been addressed.

As far as I know a trade can't be made with picks that can potentially interfere with the conditions of another trade so I'm guessing that the trade with Buffalo already had its conditional criteria met

 

[10Ducky10]

As far as I know a trade can't be made with picks that can potentially interfere with the conditions of another trade so I'm guessing that the trade with Buffalo already had its conditional criteria met

Buffalo got the 2022 pick from Florida (28th).

 

[Guardian17]

 

[Eyeseeing]

Wow sad news
That’s young

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

I enjoyed his play.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Reject playoffs, embrace tanking for Bedard.

 

[JetsFan815]

A pattern I have noticed:

When folks here start taking too much pleasure in this thread in Maurice/Florida's record, the Jets start to lose games and suffer injuries. When they are quiete about it, they win games and survive injury scares. Let's not tempt fate again.