Around the NHL — Episode XLXVI

[Big Muddy]

This is true. However, there are multiple caveats that need to be considered:

1. A valuation is not actual money in the bank. It's a figure on a piece of paper or computer screen. It can change quickly. Anyone who has a significant portion of their wealth in the markets can certainly attest to that. Their personal "valuation" has dropped 20% in the last 3 months.
2. We've just been through a 20 year boom period in professional sports. There's no guarantee that that will continue for the next 20 years, especially for a Tier 3 market in a Tier 3 league like the NHL (it's certainly not the NFL or NBA, and not even the MLB).
3. Someone still has to service operating losses with real money every single year.

Not saying they'll sell the team, or if they do, that there won't be buyers. But it's not a guaranteed good investment, for anyone. A lot of work needs to, and will need to, go into it every single year to turn it into a good investment.

Ya, thinking the cap will rise every year is a slippery slope. We just had a pandemic that changed that. But, there are other events that can happen. For example, when the Canadian dollar was about .65 of an American dollar. That happened in years past. That's just one of many events or examples.

He is one of the greatest Defenceman of all time, he changed how hockey is played. There is no Quinn Hughes or Cake Makar without Erik Karlsson

Probably had the biggest impact of any player in recent NHL history in how a position is played since Patrick Roy made every goalie chnage their style

What about Bobby Orr? Paul Coffey?

 

[Micklebot]

What about Bobby Orr? Paul Coffey?

They also wouldn't exist without Karlsson; he transcends time, space and reality.

 

[playasRus]

There's a difference between having a desire to win when you're at work vs. thinking about your job 24/7.

The large majority of players, even the superstars, have no interest in discussing hockey with friends or family or watching it on off nights. Hell, this is the case for all athletes, even some of the all-time greats (see: Michael Jordan, Aaron Rodgers, etc).

Also talking about hockey when you're one of the best with fan boys is not very exciting.

"What's Alfredsson like?"

 

[Tuna99]

Ya, thinking the cap will rise every year is a slippery slope. We just had a pandemic that changed that. But, there are other events that can happen. For example, when the Canadian dollar was about .65 of an American dollar. That happened in years past. That's just one of many events or examples.


What about Bobby Orr? Paul Coffey?

If you’re talking about generational Dman then we are on the same page

 

[JD1]

not sure if this has been posted already but our schedule this year is much better than last year



Last year we had the worst schedule with 12 games on the backend of a back to back against a rested team, while only being the rested team against a tired team 3 times. This year the net difference is just 1 more game where we are at the disadvantage than games where we're the rested team.

This should really help, particularly if we can stay healthy.

Edit: couple things I noticed, most of the teams with really favourable schedules are in the wewest that's good news for us. Buffalo is the only eastern team with a really favourable schedule, TBL, Det, NYR, and MTL have rough schedules. You can maybe add Wsh and Fla as well.

Thanks, I have been waiting for that graphic to show up. It's quite favourable for us. The teams were chasing don't have easier setups. The team that I think is chasing with us, Detroit, has a tougher go.

This schedule is quite good for our chances.

 

[Micklebot]

Thanks, I have been waiting for that graphic to show up. It's quite favourable for us. The teams were chasing don't have easier setups. The team that I think is chasing with us, Detroit, has a tougher go.

This schedule is quite good for our chances.

Yeah, I'm happy with the schedule too. The only direct competition that has a significantly better situation is Buffalo.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

With so much focus on parity by the NHL bigwigs, it makes you wonder how the schedule can stake such swings from year to year. You'd have to think in an 82+ game season, that makes a huge difference for teams.

 

[JD1]

With so much focus on parity by the NHL bigwigs, it makes you wonder how the schedule can stake such swings from year to year. You'd have to think in an 82+ game season, that makes a huge difference for teams.

It does make a huge difference

Last year around this time I saw a winning pct. analysis on back to back when rested versus tired. Something along the lines of a rested team against a tired team has a .650 points percentage such that you could calculate a positive versus negative balance.

Guys often quote us being 40 points behind Toronto. Iirc we were statistically 15 - 20 behind them at the start of the season. Last year our schedule was brutal.

I posted a few teams that over a multi year cycle, say 3 years, the schedules need to be fully balanced. There's big money involved for owners. You'd think they would want it balanced..

 

[bicboi64]

Zac Aston Reese is on a PTO with Toronto. Not a fan of this as he's a defensively sound player who can grind away on the fourth line while their stars take a break. He's never a liability and plays hard. Really hope Toronto doesn't end up signing him as I'd prefer their 4th line to have guys with zero speed like Simmonds or Clifford

 

[SensHulk]

I think the senators should sue Uber and their ‘Uber one’ logo bearing a striking similarity to ‘the 7th’ logo

Uber:

Senators:

 

[Que]

I think the senators should sue Uber and their ‘Uber one’ logo bearing a striking similarity to ‘the 7th’ logo

Uber:
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Senators:
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We will take .5% of Ubers future revenue - and win a bazillion cups.

Honestly, it’s definitely copyright infringement.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I think the senators should sue Uber and their ‘Uber one’ logo bearing a striking similarity to ‘the 7th’ logo

Uber:
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Senators:
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If I had a nickel for every time an Uber-related controversy came up with the Sens, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

 

[SPF6ty9]

I think the senators should sue Uber and their ‘Uber one’ logo bearing a striking similarity to ‘the 7th’ logo

Uber:
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Senators:
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By gawd, that's Melnyk's music

 

[swiftwin]

I think the senators should sue Uber and their ‘Uber one’ logo bearing a striking similarity to ‘the 7th’ logo

Uber:
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Senators:
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Wasn't White in the uber-gate video?

*cues x-files theme song*

 

[maclean]

We will take .5% of Ubers future revenue - and win a bazillion cups.

Honestly, it’s definitely copyright infringement.

Honestly, ours looks more like the rip-off though

 

[Micklebot]

Honestly, ours looks more like the rip-off though

I'm no lawyer, but Uber applied for trademark about two years after the sens launched the 7th fan reward program, the team might actually have a case...

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Get ready, I'd be shocked if jersey ads aren't coming for the Sens.

 

[maclean]

I'm no lawyer, but Uber applied for trademark about two years after the sens launched the 7th fan reward program, the team might actually have a case...

Oh, to be sure, I'm just saying, ours looks more like the cheap knock-off

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Get ready, I'd be shocked if jersey ads aren't coming for the Sens.

I get the traditionalist bent for sure, and am generally not a fan of how pervasive advertising has become... but if it gives the team an added revenue stream, I'm fine with a small jersey ad that will eventually just become background noise.

 

[Korpse]

Get ready, I'd be shocked if jersey ads aren't coming for the Sens.

IIRC, the team went much if not all of last season without helmet ads for whatever reason.

 

[Micklebot]

IIRC, the team went much if not all of last season without helmet ads for whatever reason.

I'm guessing our product will be more desirable for advertisers to associate their brand with this season, for some reason I doubt we held out from helmet ads on principal...

 

[Korpse]

I'm guessing our product will be more desirable for advertisers to associate their brand with this season, for some reason I doubt we held out from helmet ads on principal...

I don't think it's based on principal either. I'm sure they don't have the options that a team like Toronto has but it's hard to believe there wasn't a fair share of advertisers who were looking to market their product. I suspect the organization was looking to bring in more revenue with any ad deal than was offered, moving forward it might be easier to sell that spot but it isn't a slam dunk.

 

[HSF]

BET99 was the senators helmet sponsor starting last Jan

 

[PatrickEaves]

IIRC, the team went much if not all of last season without helmet ads for whatever reason.

I think the rumor was that they had a deal with a weed company, but the league wouldn't approve it

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Good for a chuckle.

The funniest thing is it is not written as satire.

How Close Are the Senators to the Toronto Maple Leafs?

How Close Are the Senators to the Toronto Maple Leafs? Not very, but it's hilarious to see that some people actually think so!

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