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[RRhoads]

I mean Copp signed a 5 year one himself so it's only 2 years longer

Trocheck is also a year older.

 

[Oddbob]

More importantly Copp would look significantly different with Panarin on his wing.

Trocheck is still the much better player.

 

[norrisnick]

Trocheck is still the much better player.

He's a marginally better player on a significantly better team playing with exponentially better linemates.

Trocheck on the Wings would be every bit the whipping boy as Copp.

 

[DanielMarois]

He's a marginally better player on a significantly better team playing with exponentially better linemates.

Trocheck on the Wings would be every bit the whipping boy as Copp.

Simply not true, Trocheck had much better seasons before NY than Copp ever did.

 

[Oddbob]

He's a marginally better player on a significantly better team playing with exponentially better linemates.

Trocheck on the Wings would be every bit the whipping boy as Copp.

Trocheck has far more offence than anything Copp has ever done. It isn't all just on teammates all the time, as he did well away from Panarin. He also plays with edge, something Copp knows anything about.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Not gonna lose any sleep over missing out on some other placeholder, and I like Trochek.

 

[Oddbob]

Not gonna lose any sleep over missing out on some other placeholder, and I like Trochek.

Me neither, but pretending they are the same tier player also doesn't make sense. Copp achieved 50 pts exactly once in his career, while Trocheck has done it 6 times and would have a 7th if not for Covid in 20-21. Pretty sure only 2 of those he played with Panarin.

 

[DanielMarois]

And if it's just a question of teammates, why couldn't Copp slide into Larkin's spot when Larkin got hurt? Answer, because he sucks.

 

[SoupNazi]

More importantly Copp would look significantly different with Panarin on his wing.

Amazing how people overlook that because it doesn't fit the agenda.

 

[norrisnick]

Amazing how people overlook that because it doesn't fit the agenda.

Somehow the "Trocheck vs Copp decision of '22" has become the driving focus of both franchises' current fortunes.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Trocheck is playong so well for NYR, the Wings would look so different if he would have signed here instead of Copp.

Oh we're still doing this?

In one of the other pointless discussions about this I posted a quote from Trochek where he states that New York was one of his top choices. They gave him 7 years on a team poised to make a Cup run.

I'm betting Yzerman wasn't willing to go 7 years and the Wings weren't exactly the Rangers so it's a tougher sell.

I guess if people want to they can keep pretending it wouldn't have been hard to get him here and Yzerman chose Copp over Trochek because he thought Copp was a superior player. I just don't see what the point is.

Here's the quote:

"This was one of just a few teams that we really looked at and thought it was a good fit," Trocheck said. "So coming in, we knew that New York was probably our No. 1 choice."

Rangers, Trocheck reach 7-year, $39.3M deal

The Rangers have reached a seven-year deal with ex-Hurricanes center Vincent Trocheck, it was announced. Sources told ESPN that the deal was for an average of $5.625 million per season.

www.espn.com

 

[DanielMarois]

Oh we're still doing this?

In one of the other pointless discussions about this I posted a quote from Trochek where he states that New York was one of his top choices. They gave him 7 years on a team poised to make a Cup run.

I'm betting Yzerman wasn't willing to go 7 years and the Wings weren't exactly the Rangers so it's a tougher sell.

I guess if people want to they can keep pretending it wouldn't have been hard to get him here and Yzerman chose Copp over Trochek because he thought Copp was a superior player. I just don't see what the point is.

Here's the quote:

Rangers, Trocheck reach 7-year, $39.3M deal

The Rangers have reached a seven-year deal with ex-Hurricanes center Vincent Trocheck, it was announced. Sources told ESPN that the deal was for an average of $5.625 million per season.

www.espn.com

I didn't say that, I said if he would have signed here, meaning if it was a possibility.

 

[SoupNazi]

I didn't say that, I said if he would have signed here, meaning if it was a possibility.

You made that post solely to hijack a thread for discussion about what is going on elsewhere around the NHL and turn it into a “Copp sucks and Wings are terrible” thread.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I didn't say that, I said if he would have signed here, meaning if it was a possibility.

It's just that it's been beat to death and the reasons well covered, so I guess I don't understand the continued lament.

It was technically possible, but extremely unlikely.

 

[DanielMarois]

You made that post solely to hijack a thread for discussion about what is going on elsewhere around the NHL and turn it into a “Copp sucks and Wings are terrible” thread.

Or because the Rangers were playing a game and it was just a thought

 

[RabidBadger]

Somehow the "Trocheck vs Copp decision of '22" has become the driving focus of both franchises' current fortunes.

Yeah, I think the Rangers are in the same spot now had they retained Copp and Trocheck would currently be golfing with Larkin talking about next year if he signed with Day-twah.

 

[DanielMarois]

Yeah, I think the Rangers are in the same spot now had they retained Copp and Trocheck would currently be golfing with Larkin talking about next year if he signed with Day-twah.

Lol, Trocheck is the Rangers leading scorer in the playoffs and #5 overall.

 

[RabidBadger]

Lol, Trocheck is the Rangers leading scorer in the playoffs and #5 overall.

That's fantastic!. I'm sure he'd be doing the exact same thing at this very moment with Detroit. I'm going to walk away and leave you to your Trocheck alternate reality takes and watch you pounce like an ambush predator on anyone that disagrees.

 

[ricky0034]

Yeah, I think the Rangers are in the same spot now had they retained Copp and Trocheck would currently be golfing with Larkin talking about next year if he signed with Day-twah.

you could say that about literally any player in the league including McDavid

 

[FabricDetails]

I was thinking to myself maybe the Stars finally got it this year and then I remembered Benn and thought, "Oh right. Naw, F that team..."

 

[Henkka]

Oh dear. Scott Arniel is the new Jets coach.

Also Mike Commodore seems to have an opion about him.

 

[Konnan511]

Oh dear. Scott Arniel is the new Jets coach.

Also Mike Commodore seems to have an opion about him.

I wish there was a list with people Mike Commodore hates and to see if he's been right or wrong more often. He was super right about Babcock.

 

[ricky0034]

I wish there was a list with people Mike Commodore hates and to see if he's been right or wrong more often. He was super right about Babcock.

I wanna know if he has some sort of tacky "enemies list" that he keeps around or if it's just all stored in his head

 

[RabidBadger]

I wanna know if he has some sort of tacky "enemies list" that he keeps around or if it's just all stored in his head

I think yes to both. He has the list, and if he loses his pocket spiral notepad with the written info, his head is the back up source.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I wanna know if he has some sort of tacky "enemies list" that he keeps around or if it's just all stored in his head