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at least this Nylander deal being speculated on is actually 8 years unlike the stupid 4-5 year deals they keep giving Matthews

Ricelund said:
They're going to have to trade Marner, right? They're now spending $46+ million on 4 forwards next season.
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maybe

it helps that the Tavares deal ends the same time Marner's does though
 
Ricelund said:
They're going to have to trade Marner, right? They're now spending $46+ million on 4 forwards next season.
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If he wants to be moved, He has a NMC (as does Matthews and Tavares, and I assume Nylander will have one). I'm in the same park as @JediOrderPizza in thinking some sort of move has needed to be made there but signing Nylander is just going to make it harder.

They might have been better off if they had somehow cratered this season because then they could have more easily justified making moves to their fan base and to the locker room. Moving one of those core pieces now, though...it's hard to begin with but unless they made an absolute killing in a deal the optics would be horrible, too.
 
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I'm amused by Leaf fans that have deluded themselves into thinking that Tavares will do anything other than get extended by the Leafs.
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He might be willing to take a discount though. Regardless of where he goes, he's not gonna get $11M when he's 34. That would be crazy.

This means Bert will be available in UFA. Wouldn't mind if he came back to replace Perron for a year or two.
 
RED WINGS STOMP said:
Wish we could of gotten in on that with some of our d prospects. Oh well, can't have them all.
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He didn't want to sign with Philly because he was a Penguins fan growing up, lol. They probably traded with the shittiest team possible as revenge. They weren't going to send him to a conference rival anyways, more than likely that the Wings and Flyers will be competing against each other for a wild card spot next season, just like they are now.

Also, I doubt Philly would be interested in any Wings D prospects aside from Ed. Nobody else is NHL ready.
 
JediOrderPizza said:
That is terrible for the Flyers. Awful.
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Gauthier said glowing things about Yzerman in his combine interview. He also seemed disappointed after the draft when talking about being picked by Philly.
Terrible deal for the Flyers. Drysdale is not as good as advertised on draft day.
 
Gniwder said:
He didn't want to sign with Philly because he was a Penguins fan growing up, lol.
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If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?

EDIT: And the same day this trade happens, the Penguins beat the Flyers 4-1. Talk about insult to injury.
 
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If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?

EDIT: And the same day this trade happens, the Penguins beat the Flyers 4-1. Talk about insult to injury.
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He is friends with Kevin Hayes, who was just run out of town.

Flyers management in Jones and Briere sound like f***ing idiots every time I hear them speak. And Torts is a dinosaur. That team is playing well above their weight class right now.
 
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jkutswings said:
If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?
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To be fair, has there ever been another top 5 NHL draft pick that refused to sign with a team because he was a fan of a division rival?

Wheeler and Fox were pending UFA after completing 4 years of college, so they aren't quite the same. Fox was also picked waaay lower. Lindros refused to sign because he didn't like the owner. I can't think of anything similar to Cutter's situation.
 
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jkutswings said:
If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?

EDIT: And the same day this trade happens, the Penguins beat the Flyers 4-1. Talk about insult to injury.
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Supposedly what happened was Gauthier was close with some of the players that Philly traded away (Kevin Hayes is one, allegedly), and they all have awful things to say about Philly as an organization. Also, he was drafted when Briere was just Assistant GM, so it may well be that there's a new sheriff in town and they didn't get on as well.
 
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jkutswings said:
If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?

EDIT: And the same day this trade happens, the Penguins beat the Flyers 4-1. Talk about insult to injury.
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Don't know his family background or upbringing but man it makes me thing the kids family is rich. With my poor ass background I wouldn't care if my most hated rival drafted me, getting an opportunity to play in the NHL and make NHL money. Hell yeah.

Edit: Looks like his dad had some professional hockey success. So wasn't hurting thats for sure.

Idk, takes all types I guess.
 
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jkutswings said:
If that's true, then the Flyers are morons for using the 5th overall pick on a guy without doing enough research to know that he loves your cross state rival so much that he might hesitate to sign with you.

Like, how does that not come up during interviews?

EDIT: And the same day this trade happens, the Penguins beat the Flyers 4-1. Talk about insult to injury.
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Briere said in an interview that the kid really changed his tune.

Like prior to the draft told them he was “built to be a flyer” then within a year was telling them he wants out and won’t sign with them.

 
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Briere said in an interview that the kid really changed his tune.

Like prior to the draft told them he was “built to be a flyer” then within a year was telling them he wants out and won’t sign with them.

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There were comments on a BC Hockey insider twitter account that Cutter was unhappy with Flyers management and how they handled him. HE wanted to sign, they jerked him around when asking if he'd get playing time on the big club.

Then the Flyers tried moving him at the draft for Reinbacher (confirmed on the main forum the Flyers were trying to nab another top pick at the draft) but Montreal wasn't having it.

Cutter didn't attend the Flyers rookie camp reportedly because the Flyers weren't going to pay for him to go there, or couldn't pay for him to go there. Not sure which.

Cutter goes to the WJC, plays like the MVP, and refuses to meet with Briere and Jones. They trade him and make it sound like it was 100% on Cutter. The remarks they made are totally jilted lover comments. "Yeah, well, he didn't ever want to be a Flyer so f*** him!"

To me, it sounds like the Flyers management team is a f***ing gong show. Fletcher hires Tortorella as coach after hiring consultants to run the interview panels. Fletcher eventually fired. Jones is promoted despite only having experience as a talking head on TV. (Correct me if I'm wrong here but I don't think he's worked as an AGM, GM, scout, or in hockey ops.) Jones hires Briere who seems like a complete munson of a GM.

Honestly, the remarks from Jones and Briere make me think they're saying this stuff to the media to save face. "Well he just had a great WJC so we had to trade him now at his highest value!" I can't imagine Steve Yzerman or Verbeek or any competent GM making comments like this about a guy they just traded. Airing their dirty laundry like this is just covering their own asses for failing to sign their #2 prospect.

I hope that Michkov says f*** you to Philadelphia next so we can trade Wallinder and a 1st for him.
 
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OgeeOgelthorpe said:
Cutter didn't attend the Flyers rookie camp reportedly because the Flyers weren't going to pay for him to go there, or couldn't pay for him to go there. Not sure which.
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He'd lose his college eligibility if they paid for a second camp. Sounds like he was just tired of travel.

www.inquirer.com

Cutter Gauthier clarifies reason for missing Flyers development camp, Flyers submit to toll Ivan Fedotov contract

The Flyers were missing their top young prospect.
www.inquirer.com www.inquirer.com

Reading other articles, it sounds like he doesn't want to go pro unless he's guaranteed a roster spot. The Ducks might be willing to do that though, they're near the bottom of the league in scoring plus they're playing all of their first round picks.
 
Gniwder said:
He'd lose his college eligibility if they paid for a second camp. Sounds like he was just tired of travel.

www.inquirer.com

Cutter Gauthier clarifies reason for missing Flyers development camp, Flyers submit to toll Ivan Fedotov contract

The Flyers were missing their top young prospect.
www.inquirer.com www.inquirer.com

Reading other articles, it sounds like he doesn't want to go pro unless he's guaranteed a roster spot. The Ducks might be willing to do that though, they're near the bottom of the league in scoring plus they're playing all of their first round picks.
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I read more of the thread on the mains regarding this topic. (My brain hurts from and I now need a shower.)

Apparently Cutter was dissatisfied by the management of Jones/Briere and they tried moving him at the 2023 draft. He didn't go to the rookie camp because of funding but there's also speculation that there was no point because Cutter wanted out then and the Flyers were still trying to move him.

Also, when thinking about it, why should he have bothered taking Briere/Jones' meeting about his role with the team when they were actively trying to trade him? I would have said f*** off to the Flyers too.
 
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