Around the League Thread | Where elbows aren’t penalties and what’s the capital of Thailand again?

[rea]

Oiler fans are massively ASSHURT tonight. Many are refusing to accept their team is bad and it is all because the refs and Bettman are against them

Oh man, alot of us were like that in 2011 too. I know alot of their fans and posters are a pain in the ass, but every team that loses feels this way, and act as such.

It's super entertaining to read though, lol. Ultimately, no teams fans that lose feel like they shoulda lost, and have some alterior reasons that controlled their fate. It is what it is

 

[Bgav]

Oh man, alot of us were like that in 2011 too. I know alot of their fans and posters are a pain in the ass, but every team that loses feels this way, and act as such.

It's super entertaining to read though, lol. Ultimately, no teams fans that lose feel like they shoulda lost, and have some alterior reasons that controlled their fate. It is what it is

its funny because they mocked us in 2011 and now they are saying the same shit lol

 

[rea]

its funny because they mocked us in 2011 and now they are saying the same shit lol

 

[Intangibos]

its funny because they mocked us in 2011 and now they are saying the same shit lol

Saw one guy on their board calling Canucks chokers, pretty rich from a fan of a team about to get SWEPT in the finals

 

[rea]

Sometimes, everyone just needs to take a breath, and let karma do the job for you lol. As I say, it makes the tears that much more delicious, and you acted in a respectful way lol win - win.

 

[LordBacon]

Lost a lot of respect for Drai this off season.

 

[crazychimp]

 

[Slapshot_11]

Clearly thats a canucks fan in disguised

 

[JT Milker]

Oilers fan dropping homophobic slurs, nature is healing.

 

[tantalum]

Typical Oiler fans. Like I’ve mentioned before I was a kid watching the Canucks and oilers at the old Northlands and had beer deliberately dumped on me because I was cheering for the Canucks. f*** the Oilers and their fans.

Barkov….have to wait and see. Given the time of the injury ache was going to be hard pressed to return anyways because of protocol timing. If he is out they damn well better suspend Draisatl.

Also...Oilers generated 1 high danger chance in all situations last night. Only 9 scoring chances. But it was the officiating. Puhlease...

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Typical Oiler fans. Like I’ve mentioned before I was a kid watching the Canucks and oilers at the old Northlands and had beer deliberately dumped on me because I was cheering for the Canucks. f*** the Oilers and their fans.

Barkov….have to wait and see. Given the time of the injury ache was going to be hard pressed to return anyways because of protocol timing. If he is out they damn well better suspend Draisatl.

It should not play a role in the penalty IMO.

But DoPS will shit their pants and not dare do a thing.

I hope Florida has their next regular season game against the Oilers marked on their calendar.

Also...Oilers generated 1 high danger chance in all situations last night. Only 9 scoring chances. But it was the officiating. Puhlease...

 

[tantalum]

It should not play a role in the penalty IMO.

But DoPS will shit their pants and not dare do a thing.

I hope Florida has their next regular season game against the Oilers marked on their calendar.

injury shouldn't play a role in discipline....I 100% agree. It's part of the reason you can't get rid of some of this stuff. A player is more likely to bounce back than get injured. Intent/the play should be punished. But the league explicitly uses injury as a determination for punishment.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[PuckMunchkin]

injury shouldn't play a role in discipline....I 100% agree. It's part of the reason you can't get rid of some of this stuff. A player is more likely to bounce back than get injured. Intent/the play should be punished. But the league explicitly uses injury as a determination for punishment.

Yep.

Obvious intent & repeat offenders.

 

[Orr4Norris]

Typical Oiler fans. Like I’ve mentioned before I was a kid watching the Canucks and oilers at the old Northlands and had beer deliberately dumped on me because I was cheering for the Canucks. f*** the Oilers and their fans.

Barkov….have to wait and see. Given the time of the injury ache was going to be hard pressed to return anyways because of protocol timing. If he is out they damn well better suspend Draisatl.

Also...Oilers generated 1 high danger chance in all situations last night. Only 9 scoring chances. But it was the officiating. Puhlease...

I’m slightly concerned it’s a broken jaw…

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I hate seeing these stats for obvious reasons.

 

[Hodgy]

It should not play a role in the penalty IMO.

But DoPS will shit their pants and not dare do a thing.

I hope Florida has their next regular season game against the Oilers marked on their calendar.

injury shouldn't play a role in discipline....I 100% agree. It's part of the reason you can't get rid of some of this stuff. A player is more likely to bounce back than get injured. Intent/the play should be punished. But the league explicitly uses injury as a determination for punishment.

I kind of agree. Although there is good reason to take injury into account, in fact, both our criminal and civil justice systems do so (e.g., what’s the difference between assault and murder?).

I think taking the result into account is important, but that lack of the result shouldn’t be as definitive as it is.

If the NHL just pretended that every player that was hit was McDavid, they’d probably end up with a decent system.

 

[nucks88]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800382574046699628

Heh.

I must have missed his apology to the Canuck organization….I don’t care about his view of Canuck fans but his disrespect of a team in the League and his continued position on Sportsnet is pretty telling…..

 

[Luongos Knob]

Rome gets a 4.9 game suspension in the finals for a slightly late hit, Soucy gets 1 game for a crosscheck, Oilers star gets a 2 minute minor for a jumping elbow to the head.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

You get reporters and journalists from all fronts (even Pat Mcafee) bringing up Soucy on McDavid which pretty much forced the leagues hand.

Radio silence today. You know this will be swept under the rug based on everyone hushing up. I doubt Foegele even gets fined.

Can you imagine if someone like OEL did this to McDavid in Edmonton?

 

[tantalum]

I kind of agree. Although there is good reason to take injury into account, in fact, both our criminal and civil justice systems do so (e.g., what’s the difference between assault and murder?).

I think taking the result into account is important, but that lack of the result shouldn’t be as definitive as it is.

If the NHL just pretended that every player that was hit was McDavid, they’d probably end up with a decent system.

Yes there are different crimes but in many jurisdictions the punishment for attempted murder is often very similar to a successful homicide for instance.

But this isn't the legal system. This is the internal rules of conduct/professionalism for a company. Waiting for a dirty player to seriously impact another employees career before throwing the book at them doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for a business. In a company you don't wait for the assault to happen on the shop floor before terminating an employee that has been threatening it.

 

[drax0s]

To me, the most notable thing here is that this Oilers fan post game fight isn't with another drunken Oilers fan.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Colliton to New Jersey.

 

[StreetHawk]

To me, you need the officials to do their job.
Can't be saying, that they need to keep flow in the game, if the players are committing fouls. Yes, let the ticky tack stuff go, but you can't let it get to the point of anarchy on the ice by "letting them play".

 

[Hodgy]

Yes there are different crimes but in many jurisdictions the punishment for attempted murder is often very similar to a successful homicide for instance.

But this isn't the legal system. This is the internal rules of conduct/professionalism for a company. Waiting for a dirty player to seriously impact another employees career before throwing the book at them doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for a business. In a company you don't wait for the assault to happen on the shop floor before terminating an employee that has been threatening it.

I just don’t think it’s a good idea to totally divorce cause and effect though.

I think you shouldn’t focus on effect in determining if something is suspension worthy, but if it is, then I think they should take into account the effect. This is a good example. If Barkov ends up being OK and missing a game, then I think a 1 game suspension (tops two) is fair. But, if for example, it comes out he has a fractured jaw and will be out for the remainder of the playoffs, I’d be fine suspending Draisaitl for the rest of or playoffs.