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Herby said:
The Kings would have had Drew Doughty or Erik Karlsson on the ice for basically the entire game, I think the Kings may have been able to win another one (maybe 2013) or 2016.

Karlsson is not generational, his run at a dominating level was not long enough but his peak was extraordinary. One of the hardest things in the sport is transitioning from defense to offense and Karlsson could do it all by himself, like no defenseman since Coffey, who played in a much more run and gun era. Mark Stone says EK was the best player in the world from 2015 to 2017, and I agree with him. Ottawa getting to Game 7 OT vs Pittsburgh in the ECF with that roster was a huge feather in EK’s cap.
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Would have basically been this era's Pronger-Neidermeyer.

Can split them, load them up, whatever, youre going to be one miserable opponent for at least 45 minutes.
 
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Herby said:
The Kings would have had Drew Doughty or Erik Karlsson on the ice for basically the entire game, I think the Kings may have been able to win another one (maybe 2013) or 2016.

Karlsson is not generational, his run at a dominating level was not long enough but his peak was extraordinary. One of the hardest things in the sport is transitioning from defense to offense and Karlsson could do it all by himself, like no defenseman since Coffey, who played in a much more run and gun era. Mark Stone says EK was the best player in the world from 2015 to 2017, and I agree with him. Ottawa getting to Game 7 OT vs Pittsburgh in the ECF with that roster was a huge feather in EK’s cap.
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It would've been interesting to see how drafting EK might've effected the rest of the draft and other trades going forward. I mean would they still drafted Voynov? And when it came time to trade for Carter, would he have been the one Lumbus asked for instead of Johnson.
 
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It would've been interesting to see how drafting EK might've effected the rest of the draft and other trades going forward. I mean would they still drafted Voynov? And when it came time to trade for Carter, would he have been the one Lumbus asked for instead of Johnson.
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Well they drafted three RHD that year, so who knows maybe they do take Voynov still. Or maybe they take a LHD in Josi and have the best draft in NHL history.

EK was already a borderline superstar in 2012 (at age 21), so it's very unlikely the Kings would have traded him. EK was already a significantly more valuable asset than Carter and 5 years younger. They probably would have still traded Johnson, maybe even sooner.
 
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Herby said:
Well they drafted three RHD that year, so who knows maybe they do take Voynov still. Or maybe they take a LHD in Josi and have the best draft in NHL history.

EK was already a borderline superstar in 2012 (at age 21), so it's very unlikely the Kings would have traded him. EK was already a significantly more valuable asset than Carter and 5 years younger. They probably would have still traded Johnson, maybe even sooner.
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That's right Josi was in that draft too, taken a few picks later. That would've been bonkers!
 
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Which NHL broadcasts are the best? Fans rated all 32 teams

Ranking all 32 NHL local TV broadcasts from worst to best, according to fans

31: Anaheim Ducks
(2nd to last)
"Many Ducks fans and national respondents looked at Hayward’s commentary as the reason for assigning a lower grade."

"I don't know if Brent Seabrook is selling it, John, or if he's injured. The way he got up afterwards, I almost think he was selling it"

16: LA Kings
“Faust with the Kings is one of the best young pxp out there. ESPN should get him. (He’d) instantly make them better behind the mic,” said a MinnesotaWild fan, one of many out-of-market viewers to suggest he deserves consideration for national calls.

Fox is equally popular, especially among Kings fans. He’s one of the rare color commentators that’s been praised for his ability to add genuine insight to replays.

“Fox blends astute analysis with quick-witted humor and is the true star of the show,” read one ballot from L.A.

Yes, but we can't be the only ones that think Faust & Foxy are like oil and water? Sad to say but Faust is miles better on a national broadcast without Fox.

1. Detroit Red Wings
 
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16: LA Kings
“Faust with the Kings is one of the best young pxp out there. ESPN should get him. (He’d) instantly make them better behind the mic,” said a MinnesotaWild fan, one of many out-of-market viewers to suggest he deserves consideration for national calls.

Fox is equally popular, especially among Kings fans. He’s one of the rare color commentators that’s been praised for his ability to add genuine insight to replays.

“Fox blends astute analysis with quick-witted humor and is the true star of the show,” read one ballot from L.A.

Yes, but we can't be the only ones that think Faust & Foxy are like oil and water? Sad to say but Faust is miles better on a national broadcast without Fox.

1. Detroit Red Wings
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I mean, that's really the thing--we went from Bob Miller to Faust. He's young and upcoming. I'm sure there was a point like that for Bob. Some people are completely impatient with him. I think the critiques are fine in that context, and of the chemistry or whatever with him and Jim. but ther'es a reason he was one of the most sought after young pxp guys in the nation, and hockey wasn't even his main thing--give him time.
 
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I was going to post that thing from the Athletic yesterday and forgot to. I agree on the Ducks broadcast being bad, and much like the Kings with Fox, the blatant homerism is even worse when the team is in the toilet. No one wants to hear excuses or cheerleading in the booth for a bottom feeder like the Ducks were. Hayward is like Fox in that they are both good analysts calling neutral games but just can’t keep it together or analyze struggles of their teams. That could be directed by Bally’s higher ups or the Kings/Ducks themselves.

Everyone outside of LA seems to like Faust while most here don’t. It’s tough to replace a legend and be in the booth with a more established color guy who dominates the broadcast. I actually like Ahlers and have met him a couple of times as he lives not far from where my place in OC is, but you can tell that Hazy wears the pants in that booth, hence the bad rankings.

The Wings broadcast is great, Ken is a lot like Bob with how he equally praises both teams while still being excited when the Wings do well.
 
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Faust's problems on our broadcast are letting Jim run him over, being a jinxer(I don't care if he doesn't believe), and the amount of errors he makes shouldn't be happening. I think letting Fox dominate the broadcast is his biggest issue.
 
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kingsholygrail said:
Faust's problems on our broadcast are letting Jim run him over, being a jinxer(I don't care if he doesn't believe), and the amount of errors he makes shouldn't be happening. I think letting Fox dominate the broadcast is his biggest issue.
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I think his biggest issue is being a cheese-dick.

From day one he came in acting like he knew hockey as if he'd been following it for his entire life -- and we all know that's not the case. He continues to deliver that type of attitude and I can't stand it.
 
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Late with this, so I apologize if someone already said it: Watching the Avs dismantle their opponents, even in the games their opponents played well, gives me some Kings 2012 vibes. Avs are more top heavy and don't have a Quick obviously (nor have they needed one so far). But just the way everyone seems to be in the right place, make the right play with the puck, and control momentum. Playing physically and taking liberties at the right time. It's why I'm sort of pulling for them, something that my 2001-2002 self would be unable to believe.

EDIT: I'm also kinda, sorta rooting for the Celtics. WTF?
 
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I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum in wanting to see a team threepeat since it hasn't been done since the Islanders did it in the 80s, plus it would silence those critics who've been calling them Covid Cup champs, as if the rules for them are different and doesn't apply for other teams.

They've also done something the Kings are trying to do, which is to build a winning team that is mostly composed of their own drafted talent.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum in wanting to see a team threepeat since it hasn't been done since the Islanders did it in the 80s, plus it would silence those critics who've been calling them Covid Cup champs, as if the rules for them are different and doesn't apply for other teams.

They've also done something the Kings are trying to do, which is to build a winning team that is mostly composed of their own drafted talent.
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Fair points. I still don't want them to threepeat, but I am much happier watching them kick the shit out of the Rangers.
 
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