Around the League Thread Part III: Free Agent Frenzy Hangover

[deeshamrock]

OT beauty....he's lucky it's presason

 

[deeshamrock]

Lehner tweeted it was not doctors or trainers handing out benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines are schedule IV controlled substances.

Please correct my understanding if I am wrong. Did Leher just accuse Vigneault of personally handing out benzodiazepines?

If so, that's trafficking. A massively serious felony.

Yup...and he says he has proof. Also, wasn't Vigneault with the Canucks when Kessler (per his interviews with TSN and others) said he was given painkillers which contributed to his kidney issues?

 

[Gjwrams]

OT beauty....he's lucky it's presason

when did Quick get traded to Boston. Nothing makes me get anxious as much as him with the puck.

 

[Bandit]

Lehner is the messenger being shot in real time. I think lost in the uproar is that il/legal substance abuse is a global human problem and isn’t an NHL centric issue. Society is inconvenienced by the truth that a huge number people at all levels and walks of life turn to drugs to cope with their struggles. It’s not just the burnouts and villains involved, they are the easiest to pick out from the crowd.

All signs point to Mike Richards struggling with treating pain at the end of a career cut too short. Whenever I see a story about the dark side of sports, remembering him gives me reasons to pause and not dismiss the topic because it detracts from the entertainment.

Well said.

 

[deeshamrock]

 

[DAkings20]

 

[tny760]

speaking of tactless..

 

[King'sPawn]

i just have a beef with sitting back and letting it happen for years, making no attempt to prevent it, then going on a rant on twitter on someone else's behalf when it's convenient and people are paying attention to you

nothing against what he's saying, i just think it's completely tactless

While I understand your point, sometimes you have to wait to have a platform to raise awareness.

If David Hrenak tweeted out the same thing before he stepped on NHL ice, what people in a position to do anything would pay attention?

The bigger news is that he did it before retiring and potentially sabotaging the rest of his career.

 

[HookKing]

when did Quick get traded to Boston. Nothing makes me get anxious as much as him with the puck.

It was a simple indirect transmission of Quickitis -- thru Forbort.

 

[tny760]

While I understand your point, sometimes you have to wait to have a platform to raise awareness.

If David Hrenak tweeted out the same thing before he stepped on NHL ice, what people in a position to do anything would pay attention?

The bigger news is that he did it before retiring and potentially sabotaging the rest of his career.

it's not his place to light a fire under nolan patrick's career that he has no intention of putting out, because he has a "platform" and wants to "raise awareness"

one of my most hated phrases of the last 5 years

if he wants to air his grievances about his problems, fine, don't bring others into it

 

[DAkings20]

In this case I am tactless and proudly so. This idiot spewed ridiculousness like this among many other things

 

[Bandit]

In this case I am tactless and proudly so. This idiot spewed ridiculousness like this among many other things

I wouldn’t worry about it. The assclown club routinely demands to be treated with respect and humanity despite being incapable of behaving that way toward anyone else themselves. Sucks for Archibald, but too bad.

 

[lumbergh]

In this case I am tactless and proudly so. This idiot spewed ridiculousness like this among many other things

Oh the irony.

 

[Steve Zissou]

 

[Bandit]

Baseball? Regardless, good.

 

[Yog S'loth]

In this case I am tactless and proudly so. This idiot spewed ridiculousness like this among many other things

Tactless schmactless.

I want to print this tweet out and mail it to his representatives along with a self-addressed, stamped envelope and see if he'll autograph it for me like a baseball card.

 

[Fishhead]

According to Dreger, the NHL and NHLPA is involved in the Eichel situation. NHL, NHLPA Jack Eichel Buffalo Sabres - TSN.ca

I'll believe they are doing something when the NHLPA makes a statement.

If Eichel asks them, they aren't going to ignore him of course. They keep saying how complicated the whole thing is but it's been going on for how long? This isn't that complex. How long does it take to talk to a few doctors and do some analysis on previous studies? They don't have any legal legs to stand on here and they know it, so anything Buffalo does here is basically a favor to them.

I'm not completely on Buffalo's side here, because it's well documented how the league has (poorly) handled injuries/concussions/painkillers in the past. What gets me is Lehner tweeting about this crap about how it's so unfair, and how players get stuff from staff. Where were his comments when his teammates were being suspended for PED's? So when they get painkillers or Ambien it's from staff, but players would go to get their PED's somewhere else? And I doubt it was just two guys. Schmidt and Zykov being the only ones on PED's is about as believable as thinking Stoll had all that party material just for himself. It's great that he's bringing attention to something here, but prescription drug use in the NHL might be something that a lot of players might not want attention drawn to.

 

[YP44]

If Archibald takes this and becomes a spokesperson for getting vaccinated and the dangers of Covid I will feel bad for him. If he continues to believe is a farce than hard to feel bad for the guy.

 

[kingsfan]

Why is it the fringe guys that are COVID conspiracy theorists? The biggest name is arguably Tyler Bertuzzi, but most are guys like Archibald, Blackwood, Rinaldo, etc., the ones who should know how easily replaceable they are. And it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall about this causing issues if you're not vaccinated for missing games, etc. Also hard for the NHLPA to back you on this issue too. Must be drinking a lot of kool-aid to put your career at risk.

 

[Bandit]

Why is it the fringe guys that are COVID conspiracy theorists? The biggest name is arguably Tyler Bertuzzi, but most are guys like Archibald, Blackwood, Rinaldo, etc., the ones who should know how easily replaceable they are. And it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall about this causing issues if you're not vaccinated for missing games, etc. Also hard for the NHLPA to back you on this issue too. Must be drinking a lot of kool-aid to put your career at risk.

The lower your rung the more likely you are to be a f***ing dumbass. Not just in hockey but in life in general.

 

[deeshamrock]

Lehner had a 'great' talk with the NHLPA and is hoping for the same with the NHL. I wonder if players who have been affected by the pills, will reach out to the NHLPA in support. As much as I'd like the league to grow a backbone, I don't see that, unfortunately

I think it took a lot of guts for him to stand up trying to right a wrong.
and so do the players who have reached out to him.

Robin Lehner to NHL: ‘I don’t wanna burn it down, I wanna get change’ | Daily Faceoff

Lehner’s peers have taken notice. Since hitting send on his tweets, Lehner said he has been contacted by other current and former players, who have expressed some of the same concerns and offered encouragement.

He passed along a screen shot of a conversation with an anonymous former NHL player that read: “Glad you’re stepping up man. Wish I had courage when I played [team redacted] when [redacted] was there. Had me taking Ambien, Xanax and Toradol.”

On Monday, former NHL player Tom Sestito tweeted a similar message.

 

[YP44]

Glad Lehner is using his voice. Would be very easy to not.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

In this case I am tactless and proudly so. This idiot spewed ridiculousness like this among many other things

I wouldn’t worry about it. The assclown club routinely demands to be treated with respect and humanity despite being incapable of behaving that way toward anyone else themselves. Sucks for Archibald, but too bad.

Archibald is the kind of looney who will use his sickness and recovery as evidence that he was targeted with a strong flu to shut him up and that it's not that dangerous anyway.

Regardless, I don't understand what's so hard to understand about the NHL's stance here, people are still treating them like a government suppressing freedom when it's an international business with heavy contact being mindful of international and local restrictions. There's nothing to do with 'muh freedom' there, this isn't your farm in rural Ohio, this is you traveling to Metropolitan Toronto, South Florida, the heartland, and many other places on a compressed schedule with heavy, literally physically, people contact. The NHL as an organization's right to protect its business and brand takes precedence here since you as an individual still have the right to not follow their restrictions and just walk away.

 

[Bandit]

Archibald is the kind of looney who will use his sickness and recovery as evidence that he was targeted with a strong flu to shut him up and that it's not that dangerous anyway.

Regardless, I don't understand what's so hard to understand about the NHL's stance here, people are still treating them like a government suppressing freedom when it's an international business with heavy contact being mindful of international and local restrictions. There's nothing to do with 'muh freedom' there, this isn't your farm in rural Ohio, this is you traveling to Metropolitan Toronto, South Florida, the heartland, and many other places on a compressed schedule with heavy, literally physically, people contact. The NHL as an organization's right to protect its business and brand takes precedence here since you as an individual still have the right to not follow their restrictions and just walk away.

You understand that and I understand that, but the people who you need to reach with that message are the kind that tend to take horse dewormer at the advice of their favorite Facebook group instead of a vaccine developed by the top medical professionals in the world. It's a losing battle.

 

[kingsfan]

You understand that and I understand that, but the people who you need to reach with that message are the kind that tend to take horse dewormer at the advice of their favorite Facebook group instead of a vaccine developed by the top medical professionals in the world. It's a losing battle.