Gaudette, hell yeah bud. The goal scoring ability was there. He was just too weak in other areas to get the trust of the coaching staff. Maybe late maturing mentally too.
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Sure is but one would be prudent till the 20 game mark to see where teams are at.
All too often this early in the season a team looks like crap then has a shutout the next night lots of variance going on.
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It's interesting seeing people excited for Gaudette around here, last time I saw him discussed he was still a pariah for how he f***ed over the team during covid
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Not true for a couple of reasons.
Pettersson, when he's on his game, is like a young Datsyuk in the way he plays both ways, can bury any look he gets, and has incredible vision and hands for passing and stickhandling in a phone booth.
Those aren't skills that just disappear at 25 and never return.
I can't say for sure what's happening and against the Sharks it was really hard to watch how static he was and how often he was hiding from the puck by being the net front presence which he should almost never be. He should want to be the quarterback (or co-quarterback when out there with Hughes). But he looks ginger and slow. It feels like there has to be an injury there, or he's completely bereft of confidence, or battling mental health or etc etc.
But no part of me thinks that we just signed the Loui Eriksson contract X 2. And if you're honest with yourselves, 90% of you don't think so either.
You're just really upset and disappointed to be seeing our young superstar look so mentally defeated and unhappy and I'm not disagreeing with that part, it f***ing sucks.
My girlfriend is just learning about hockey and she was noting that he looked like his skating was laboured and he never moved his feet with the puck after I mentioned how much he's struggling.
So it's obvious that something is wrong, and it's hard to watch. But this isn't an 8 year problem and he's an 8 year solution.
Huberdeau's struggles can be taken more seriously because he moved from a system that worked incredibly well for his preferred style of creating space and then using his superlative vision and 360 degree passing to hit trailing defense man in space to either score themselves or make another pass to someone wide open.
For the record, I don't think Huberdeau is done either. I'm sure I have laughed in a couple of trade proposal threads or whatever, but I think he'll figure it out and be a 75-80 point guy, but will never look worth 10.5 until Calgary will retain like 2.5 on him and he'll go somewhere and thrive. Unless he figures it out there. He's too smart and talented not to.
And Dubois just doesn't seem to love the game. And this isn't a one time thing, this is him leaving a poor taste in the mouths of 3 fan bases.
If Petey is on his 4th team doing this, we can talk about it in 10 years.
Cozens is being killed in that market too, but you're right on him.
They're apparently playing Byram with Power and the two are being ventilated.
I haven't watched a Sabres game yet this year, so I don't know if it's just not working due to similar player builds and limited veteran poise, or if one is cratering the other or what.
But I'm not moving Petey, personally.
Case solved.
It’s easy to tank and pick high in the draft. It’s much harder to then turn your shitty team into a good one.
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Gaudette and MacEwen both having nice starts under the Green Sens, when Green practically ran both out of town after trying to pigeonhole them into roles they weren’t suited for (wanted Gaudette to be a grinder, and MacEwen to be an enforcer) is strange.
Gaudette’s always had offensive talent, though I’d be very surprised if he’s suddenly an every day player at this stage. I’ve always had a soft spot for MacEwen who seems like a great guy with a great family. Always thought he had potential to be more than just a knuckle duster, which is unfortunately what most coaches seem to want him to be.
Gaudette’s always had offensive talent, though I’d be very surprised if he’s suddenly an every day player at this stage. I’ve always had a soft spot for MacEwen who seems like a great guy with a great family. Always thought he had potential to be more than just a knuckle duster, which is unfortunately what most coaches seem to want him to be.
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We should trade for him.
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He will go where the money is. Bottom feeders will pay him....he's still averaging 63pts p/82
Leaving Horvat as 1C for 6 weeks isn't good.
Isles have not had much come up from within the organization since Barzal and Dobson who arrived in 2017 and 2019.
From 2015, onwards, guys whom they drafted that made the NHL as a reglar were the 2 above plus Beauvillier, Bellows (1st rounder with 95 games), the Dman Aho, Wahlstrom (limited production and games. Less than half a season the last 2), Holmstrom is limited offense so far.
Only 13 NHL games played as Isles from their 2020 and onwards draft picks.
If the Isles do bottom out, they do have Nelson, Palmeri who are due to be UFA that they can sell. Would need to retain on JGP to move him. And have to consider moving one of Pelech, Puloch, Mayfield who all have 3 more seasons after this one.
Absolutely. Transitiion from bad team to PO contender is the hard part. Convincing players to come while there is still some losing ahead is difficult. Have to overpay to get them to go.
Plus, playing kids in a losing environment is potentially dangerous in them developing bad habits that you have to work hard on to break.
Really hard to turnover an entire Dcore in like a 3 year period, which appears to be what Mon and Ana are trying to do. Habs are already -17 in GF/GA differential, second last behind SJ.
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He already was the #1 C. Nelson is 2, JGP 3, MacLean 4.
Barzal hasn't really played C since Bo's arrival
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Yes Islanders have a good chance to retool if done correctly.
As mentioned Pelech or Pulock should fetch a good return
Nelson should be moved and they can either move Barzal back to C or use the cap space on a UFA
Palmeiri this deadline and Lee next year with some smart additions using the picks they acquire and they could retool. It's that or just keep fading into a rebuild with some quality vets wilting away
As mentioned Pelech or Pulock should fetch a good return
Nelson should be moved and they can either move Barzal back to C or use the cap space on a UFA
Palmeiri this deadline and Lee next year with some smart additions using the picks they acquire and they could retool. It's that or just keep fading into a rebuild with some quality vets wilting away
Isles are going to need to add veterans with the cap space. So not getting massively younger if they sign ufas. With their arena situation resolved they should be a destination location now. Barzal turns 28 in 2025. Dobson is the youngest top guy who will be 25 in 2025. Can’t just rely on draft picks to turn it around.
Nelson, Palmeri as if as. JGP and Lee up in 2026. DCore has guys signed for term. Not unlike the Blues. Some trade protection but nothing too protective.
Nelson, Palmeri as if as. JGP and Lee up in 2026. DCore has guys signed for term. Not unlike the Blues. Some trade protection but nothing too protective.
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I'm not sure those types of ideas are in Lou Lamoriello's wheel house.
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I've always thought MacEwen just sucks at the hockey part of hockey. No clue how to make plays with teammates. He's a grinder at best but really an AHL level guy.
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I've really liked Nelson as a player these last several years. He'd be an excellent add. Terrific finisher.
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We played the long game with Boeser when he had two subpar (for him) season in a row. And watching it wasn't super fun either, he seemed like a shell of himself.
In Petey's supposedly terrible half season, he scored more points than Boeser has EVER scored.
I'm good with giving him at least as much leash as Brock. And Brock was making almost the same salary at $6M during the flat cap which was like 8% of the cap at the time.
In Petey's supposedly terrible half season, he scored more points than Boeser has EVER scored.
I'm good with giving him at least as much leash as Brock. And Brock was making almost the same salary at $6M during the flat cap which was like 8% of the cap at the time.
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I think they really need to shut him down for like 2-3 months and let his knee heal, it’s obvious that playing through it is just not doing anything for anyone.
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What OV is doing 40 years old is incredible. Might break the record this season
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We played the long game with Boeser because we had to, he simply wasn't tradable.
Other considerations with Boeser were:
he didn't have any trade protection
his father was terminally ill and failing
the team was an unmitigated disaster
Moving him wasn't a particularly urgent matter. letting it play out was pretty logical vs paying to get rid of him
Re Pettersson, something seemed to change last season around the time Kuzmenko was traded and since then (Feb 1st 2024) Pettersson has 9G 26A 35P in 56 GP (incl 13 playoff games last season), which is actually slightly worse than Boeser's P/GP numbers in 21/22
Dealing with this situation is different as there is real urgency in getting to a resolution. This team's best shot at a cup might only be a few years and we simply can't afford to have more than 13% of the cap tied up in a player who is performing at a 2% cap hit level.
I go back and forth on the length of the leash here.
If Rutherford/Alvin see the core problem is simply that Pettersson is suffering from a crisis of confidence that he will work his way out of sooner rather than later, then i think the leash will be long enough to get us to the trade deadline (perhaps longer).
It could be quite short if the actual problem is a fractured relationship, either because of how his contract extension was handled or coaching, or something health related (if the team has doubts about Pettersson being able to remain effective when dealing with a nagging injury). In this scenario, if the right deal came along, Rutherford won't be shy about pulling the trigger.
The looming NTC is obviously a huge factor.
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He actually has some decent hands and vision. He needed to be taking serious power skating a a young age. That would give him more of a base to hit guys and be a forechecking beast. People don't feel it wine bumps them. He's 6ft 4 220. Yet he has the balance of a new born foal. A stiff breeze could knock him over. I think it's pretty hard to correct as he approaches 30. You see it when he fights, he gets rag dolled a lot. I think he's doing ok considering where he came from.
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