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I don't see a clear path to a Pettersson trade with CBJ. Their pieces are nice on paper but they don't help us much within our specific window of Hughes' contract. I think there are other potential partners/assets that are more appealing:

OTT - B. Tkachuk
CAR - Necas, Svechnikov
BUF - Cozens, Power, Byram

CBJ absolutely has pieces that help us. Like hypothetically but absolutely won't happen - Werenski (50% retained and waives his trade protection) and Fantili for Petey would absolutely help.

These trades are inherently difficult to make.
 

MarkusNaslund19

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Hilarious reading the boards where everyone wants to deal Petey.

See people suggesting for Byram and Cozens.

Go to Sabres board, they are pissed off with Byram and Cozens and have mixed (at best) faith in them.

The grass is always greener.

Relax, take a breath. It feels bigger than it is. He will figure it out.
 

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Hilarious reading the boards where everyone wants to deal Petey.

See people suggesting for Byram and Cozens.

Go to Sabres board, they are pissed off with Byram and Cozens and have mixed (at best) faith in them.

The grass is always greener.

Relax, take a breath. It feels bigger than it is. He will figure it out.

I would agree with you if this was just a slow start to this season.

But it isn't.

This dates back to March and is now swiftly approaching 60 games of poor performance. There is every reason to worry.
 

Bourne Endeavor

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I would agree with you if this was just a slow start to this season.

But it isn't.

This dates back to March and is now swiftly approaching 60 games of poor performance. There is every reason to worry.

I'm willing to give it November to see if things get better but trading Petey has to be a discussion at some point soon. We only have this season to essentially take the best offer available before he can dictate everything.
 

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Eichel appeared to have a career-threatening injury at the time and never had the level of performance that 22-23 Pettersson brought.

He was also holding out to force a trade so Buffalo had less leverage than we would right now.
Ya, I know. The situations aren’t analogous. There are different reasons why Eichel’s value was lower than normal, and frankly, the medical reason was the only reason he became available at all, but none of the reasons were production reasons though. And that’s a big difference.
 
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krutovsdonut

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WTF is going on with all this trade Pety talk anyways?

Selling low also isn't a good option.

sure he is in a funk but we have seen what he is capable of and so soon forget.

That being said he is like the modern day Mogliny, not sure what you are going to get season to season.

baying hounds are gonna bay.
 

krutovsdonut

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Ya, I know. The situations aren’t analogous. There are different reasons why Eichel’s value was lower than normal, and frankly, the medical reason was the only reason he became available at all, but none of the reasons were production reasons though. And that’s a big difference.

absolutely. trading petey right now would be like trading eichel without the identified surgical path to bring him back to full health and without eichel's clear determination to get better. you'd know something was wrong but not what could fix it and you'd be in the dark about the player's commitment to address his ailment. it would also be the canucks giving up on petey months after extending him which would set off alarm bells.

so i think the only way he gets moved is if he requests a trade, at which point the city/dressing room becomes the excuse and a team can believe a change of scenery will fix things. the canuck can say they don't want to trade him and a trade request is at least an implied explanation that the problem is his current situation and a promise to play better elsewhere with another team.

but we are a long long way from there yet. he's in an early season slump and he may in fact have a nagging inury that is contributing but being downplayed.

in that regard, the other day i skinned my right thumb when a piece of wood broke off when i was ripping a board on a table saw. holy hell has that small physical injury in a key spot interfered with the things i can do.
 

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If we trade Petey - and I say IF - a young center would have to be included for the deal to happen.

Anybody remember that one TDL when Miller was almost sent to PIT for two 1st round picks? JR and PA supposedly declined because it would leave the team with a big hole at center with no one to replace him.
 
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Yeah for sure. I keep thinking Anaheim is due to take a step but seems like a lack of true young leadership and overall direction I'm thinking. Like geez I really like their draft picks for the most part.
Not every kid will make it. I mean if Zegras doesn’t click with Cronin they will ship him out. They already moved off 3/4 first rounders from the start of their rebuild from the 2019 and 2020 drafts.
 

krutovsdonut

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If we trade Petey - and I say IF - a young center would have to be included for the deal to happen.

Anybody remember that one TDL when Miller was almost sent to PIT for two 1st round picks? JR and PA supposedly declined because it would leave the team with a big hole at center with no one to replace him.

disagree. when trading a prime asset take the best asset available back same as a draft. we lost the kesler trade because we wanted to get a 2c and an impact dman so we gambled on both sbisa and bonino being more than they were.

we should have focussed on theodore and then taken whatever else we could get.
 
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Tact

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disagree. when trading a prime asset take the best asset available back same as a draft. we lost the kesler trade because we wanted to get a 2c and an impact dman so we gambled on both sbisa and bonino being more than they were.

we should have focussed on theodore and then taken whatever else we could get.
You’re disagreeing with our management then. With your logic for trade, that would leave us with Miller, Suter, Blueger, Aman (if he isn’t claimed) as our 1-4 while we try to compete for Stanley Cup this year?
 

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Hilarious reading the boards where everyone wants to deal Petey.

See people suggesting for Byram and Cozens.

Go to Sabres board, they are pissed off with Byram and Cozens and have mixed (at best) faith in them.

The grass is always greener.

Relax, take a breath. It feels bigger than it is. He will figure it out.
Cozens would get killed in this market. Power would be very interesting really like how his game has grown over the last year.
 
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krutovsdonut

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You’re disagreeing with our management then. With your logic for trade, that would leave us with Miller, Suter, Blueger, Aman (if he isn’t claimed) as our 1-4 while we try to compete for Stanley Cup this year?

how so? turning down two likely middling firsts would tend to support my outlook of chasing the best possible asset not yours.

would they have turned down one lottery pick?
 

Jay26

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Hilarious reading the boards where everyone wants to deal Petey.

See people suggesting for Byram and Cozens.

Go to Sabres board, they are pissed off with Byram and Cozens and have mixed (at best) faith in them.

The grass is always greener.

Relax, take a breath. It feels bigger than it is. He will figure it out.
You would not be saying this if he was on another team. You'd be pointing and laughing like people did about Huberdeau. Or even Dubois, who isn't close to the player Pettersson is and was never the 5th highest paid player in the league.
 

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With proper development Adam Gaudette could have become a Tyler Toffoli type scoring winger. He's always been a great scorer, goal scoring is a psychological game just as much as it is skill though and he's been rattled around a lot. Happy he's catching a hot streak and sticking around
 

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Hilarious reading the boards where everyone wants to deal Petey.

See people suggesting for Byram and Cozens.

Go to Sabres board, they are pissed off with Byram and Cozens and have mixed (at best) faith in them.

The grass is always greener.

Relax, take a breath. It feels bigger than it is. He will figure it out.

Some fans, from our team or others, will always react early at things, it's inevitable.

I'd give him more time. As a professional I trust him to be FULLY aware of the consequences of his actions, including under-performance. That alone should serve as major motivation for Pete to step up and buck up.
 
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