GDT: Around the League - Stanley Cup Final Edition - #1

[Mats13]

It’s nice to see the Habs ridiculous streak of luck run out

Hoping the off season can start Monday now. Have a feeling we make some early moves.

 

[Mess]

Hamilton has a point though... if Tampa is in fact 18 million over the cap right now, then it really isn't a surprise they are rolling over their opponents.

Tampa Bay beat NYI winning in round #3 in game #7 winning 1-0 on a SH goal.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Tampa Bay beat NYI winning in round #3 in game #7 winning 1-0 on a SH goal.

You can still dominate and only win by a goal. When the Islanders desperately needed to force a stoppage in play late in the third to call a timeout and get Barzal much needed rest, Tampa said, no, we'll keep going, roll out our lines, and run out the clock on you. You could see how helpless Trotz looked. In the most important part of that game, Tampa completely destroyed the Islanders.

 

[Menzinger]

Tampa also scored nearly twice as many goals that series as the Isles.

 

[Legion34]

Tampa Bay beat NYI winning in round #3 in game #7 winning 1-0 on a SH goal.

NYI were horrifically outplayed from games 2-7. Even game 1 tampa was circling around them like the globetrotters but they wouldn’t shoot and just made terrible reads.

they were no where near in any metric. If they hadn’t given up toews for nothing? Maybe then?
Or if they had drafted point instead of sorokin


Teams like NYI. Minny Clb and Montreal rely on hot goaltending clutching and grabbing and turning games into coin flips.

Most times they have long series. Price has just ran out of luck. Happens every finals. There is often a Cinderella team that gets to the ball. But the clock always strikes midnight.

If jarry didn’t play like he was drunk. They never get past pit. Then rask has a torn hip and can’t play.

Montreal literally had a top C and top 4 D out in the first 2 rounds.

playoffs are an elaborate coin flip. But the luck always runs out at some point

 

[Pi]

Difference is we won’t be playing against Winnipeg - Edmonton for a playoff spot.
It will be Tampa - Boston - Florida and possibly teams like NYI - Carolina for wildcard.

There is basically 0 chance the Leafs miss the playoffs unless they lose all their core players to injury.

We may not do great in the playoffs lol but under Keefe they have been one of the best regular season teams behind basically just Tampa and Colorado. That is since Babcock was fired, not just this season.

 

[hamzarocks]

There is basically 0 chance the Leafs miss the playoffs unless they lose all their core players to injury.

We may not do great in the playoffs lol but under Keefe they have been one of the best regular season teams behind basically just Tampa and Colorado. That is since Babcock was fired, not just this season.

We were 8th seed last year with Keefe

Babcock was coach the first 23 games and Keefe the next 47.

Leafs were not the 3rd best team in the regular season behind Bolts and Avs. Keefe had a .628 pt% in his 47 games which was 7th best in the NHL in 2020.

Leafs won't have a cake walk into the playoffs next year.

Tampa and Boston will most Likely finish ahead of us. We will get one of them in the first round sadly. The Panthers have also improved quite a bit and will challenge us again heavily for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic

Leafs might have less depth on the roster upfront in 2022 then they had in 2020 with 2020 seeing us having Mikheyev play like a top 6 forward in his half season, AJ being a decent 3rd liner, and Kapanen being a good decent 2nd liner

If we make good forward additions and fix up the bottom then we probably are the 6th to 8th best team in the NHL.

If we end up running the same team we will be fighting for a wildcard spot

 

[Brobust]

We were 8th seed last year with Keefe

Babcock was coach the first 23 games and Keefe the next 47.

Leafs were not the 3rd best team in the regular season behind Bolts and Avs. Keefe had a .628 pt% in his 47 games which was 7th best in the NHL in 2020.

Leafs won't have a cake walk into the playoffs next year.

Tampa and Boston will most Likely finish ahead of us. We will get one of them in the first round sadly. The Panthers have also improved quite a bit and will challenge us again heavily for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic

Leafs might have less depth on the roster upfront in 2022 then they had in 2020 with 2020 seeing us having Mikheyev play like a top 6 forward in his half season, AJ being a decent 3rd liner, and Kapanen being a good decent 2nd liner

If we make good forward additions and fix up the bottom then we probably are the 6th to 8th best team in the NHL.

If we end up running the same team we will be fighting for a wildcard spot

Disagree.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I'd like to see Montreal win a couple of games.

If they don't, it's just more fuel to the "North teams are the worst, and still Toronto couldn't even win one series" argument.

Also, it will mean that the Islanders were Tampa's toughest opponent for the second year in a row, which is more justification to saying we shouldn't have let Lou go.

I don't want them to win, because they would then match us as the only teams to come back from down three games to none to win the Cup.

 

[hamzarocks]

Disagree.

Considering leafs haven't ever come outside the 6-8 range in 4 years we played in the Atlantic prior to this year I think your disagreement us heavy bias to the team you support

 

[hamzarocks]

I'd like to see Montreal win a couple of games.

If they don't, it's just more fuel to the "North teams are the worst, and still Toronto couldn't even win one series" argument.

Also, it will mean that the Islanders were Tampa's toughest opponent for the second year in a row, which is more justification to saying we shouldn't have let Lou go.

I don't want them to win, because they would then match us as the only teams to come back from down three games to none to win the Cup.

Naw screw the Habs seeing them get swept atleast helps lessen leaf fans miseries a little bit

The isles this year were the best opponent for the Bolts and the 2nd best team in the playoffs. They could gave been the team ready to sweep the Habs had they just showed up in game 7 on time

Last years isles weren't that good and they got dominated despite it going to 6 last year.

Lou shouldn't have been let go no need to argue thst. He should've been here atleast 1 if not 2 more years.

The North also was the weakest division and leafs only blowing it after being up 3-1 shows how fundamentally flawed this organization is at the moment

 

[Brobust]

Considering leafs haven't ever come outside the 6-8 range in 4 years we played in the Atlantic prior to this year I think your disagreement us heavy bias to the team you support

If we end up running the same team we will be fighting for a wildcard spot

I disagree with this.

Sorry, I didn't bother reading most of your post as I don't really think you have much to offer.

 

[hamzarocks]

If we end up running the same team we will be fighting for a wildcard spot

I disagree with this.

Sorry, I didn't bother reading most of your post as I don't really think you have much to offer.

Don't worry feel the same way with your blatant homeristic takes. Your only half as good as Dubas as spewing nonsensical bullshit though so you got room to improve. No doubt you'll get there with how determined you are to die on the dubas wagon

Time will tell where leafs end up. Hopefully it's 1st in the divison

 

[Maplebeasts]

Naw screw the Habs seeing them get swept atleast helps lessen leaf fans miseries a little bit

The isles this year were the best opponent for the Bolts and the 2nd best team in the playoffs. They could gave been the team ready to sweep the Habs had they just showed up in game 7 on time

Last years isles weren't that good and they got dominated despite it going to 6 last year.

Lou shouldn't have been let go no need to argue thst. He should've been here atleast 1 if not 2 more years.

The North also was the weakest division and leafs only blowing it after being up 3-1 shows how fundamentally flawed this organization is at the moment

I am so confused by the people who wish Lou was still here. While he was here he could not draft and signed the same bad contracts Dubas did, but to bad players instead. Marleau's third year killed us and cost us a real gem of a prospect in Jarvis. He also gave 7 years to Zaitsev and overpayed Matt Martin. The 2016 and 2017 drafts were complete abominations aside from Matthews and Liljegren. I have zero doubts based on hos body of work here that this team would be worse now if he was still in charge. The one thing saving his reputation right now is the fact he hired Trotz for the Isles. How that man gets so much out of such a crap roster is beyond me.

 

[Dragao6]

I'd like to see Montreal win a couple of games.

If they don't, it's just more fuel to the "North teams are the worst, and still Toronto couldn't even win one series" argument.

Also, it will mean that the Islanders were Tampa's toughest opponent for the second year in a row, which is more justification to saying we shouldn't have let Lou go.

I don't want them to win, because they would then match us as the only teams to come back from down three games to none to win the Cup.

There is no chance montreal wins a game
COVID was the best thing to happen to the Habs
This serious shows just how far they still are

in my view the Habs are not a playoff team
They come up with incredible luck
Tavares out, scheiffle, the fleury giveaway at end of game to change that series. I expected more from Vegas so credit to Habs but they still can’t score which has been their issue for years now so no Habs get swept and I’ll love it

Bergevin was a goal away vs leafs of getting fired and that team being horribly criticized
They are like the leafs of old where they almost got in but never did yet never bad enough to get those top picks
Unless price gets hurt then their a bottom 5 team

and when the price and Webber contracts become an issue watch out

 

[notDatsyuk]

There is no chance montreal wins a game
COVID was the best thing to happen to the Habs
This serious shows just how far they still are

in my view the Habs are not a playoff team
They come up with incredible luck
Tavares out, scheiffle, the fleury giveaway at end of game to change that series. I expected more from Vegas so credit to Habs but they still can’t score which has been their issue for years now so no Habs get swept and I’ll love it

Bergevin was a goal away vs leafs of getting fired and that team being horribly criticized
They are like the leafs of old where they almost got in but never did yet never bad enough to get those top picks
Unless price gets hurt then their a bottom 5 team

and when the price and Webber contracts become an issue watch out

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but everything you say is just making our team look even worse by comparison.

But I don't think it was just luck. Luck will win you a couple of games, but not three series.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I am so confused by the people who wish Lou was still here. While he was here he could not draft and signed the same bad contracts Dubas did, but to bad players instead. Marleau's third year killed us and cost us a real gem of a prospect in Jarvis. He also gave 7 years to Zaitsev and overpayed Matt Martin. The 2016 and 2017 drafts were complete abominations aside from Matthews and Liljegren. I have zero doubts based on hos body of work here that this team would be worse now if he was still in charge. The one thing saving his reputation right now is the fact he hired Trotz for the Isles. How that man gets so much out of such a crap roster is beyond me.

Maybe it isn't "such a crap roster"?

Certainly they don't have the high end talent we have, but they are, just as certainly, much more successful. Lou and Barry have taken a total mess and turned it into probably the second best 'team' in the league. Barry is a good coach, but even the best have to have something to work with.

 

[Cor]

If we end up running the same team we will be fighting for a wildcard spot

I disagree with this.

Sorry, I didn't bother reading most of your post as I don't really think you have much to offer.

Don't worry feel the same way with your blatant homeristic takes. Your only half as good as Dubas as spewing nonsensical bullshit though so you got room to improve. No doubt you'll get there with how determined you are to die on the dubas wagon

Time will tell where leafs end up. Hopefully it's 1st in the divison

I mean, it's a bit too early to be having this argument. The cup hasn't even been lifted yet

Tampa needs to cut a lot of cap. They'll be losing guys like Coleman, and Goodrow. They'll need to move others as well. They'll still be a stronger team than us, but it won't be as ridiculously OP as they've been the last 2 seasons. Boston also will be interesting. Does Hall stick around? Is Rask retiring as there is a lot of talk of? There's been talk of Krejci's future as well. We don't know what Boston will look like next season, and if Rask calls it a career, that will have a massive impact. Florida, they are losing Driedger who kept them afloat for a lot of the season. They need Bobrovsky to bounce back or for Spencer Knight to take the reigns.

So if things go right for all 3 of those teams? Then yes, we'll be battling for a wildcard spot.

However there's just as much of a chance we are battling for 2nd in the division.

Either way, it's kinda early to get worked up on where we may or may not finish next season

 

[mjlee]

Sooo if it was the Leafs in a SCF, wonder what the ticket prices would be on the stubuh etc. And the number of Leaf fans who would skip the birth of their child for a chance to watch the Leafs live. Leafs losing in the first round broke the HF servers, bet they'd be down for most of the series.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the most expensive tickets ever were USA-Canada in Vancouver 2010 followed by Rangers-Kings?

 

[I am Canadian]

Habs fans are having full on melt downs, I would too honestly with the 100M Tampa team.

If the Leafs had made a run like that I would be atleast happy to make progress. Maybe being in the finals draws more hunger for next year.

Would be crazy if Montreal trades for Eichel. Seems like a smart all in play imo. Keep Suzuki and Caufield and offer K.K + a button of picks and prospects

 

[Superstar]

Habs fans are having full on melt downs, I would too honestly with the 100M Tampa team.

If the Leafs had made a run like that I would be atleast happy to make progress. Maybe being in the finals draws more hunger for next year.

Would be crazy if Montreal trades for Eichel. Seems like a smart all in play imo. Keep Suzuki and Caufield and offer K.K + a button of picks and prospects

This is a great run for their young core's development, but some of them ain't happy that Bergevin will get re-signed and that they might miss the playoffs next season.

I think Kevin Adams is looking for a big impact player for Eichel, and KK ain't it...and he probably wants to move Eichel out of the division at least, if not the conference.

 

[napoleon in rags]

I'd like to see Montreal win a couple of games.

If they don't, it's just more fuel to the "North teams are the worst, and still Toronto couldn't even win one series" argument.

Also, it will mean that the Islanders were Tampa's toughest opponent for the second year in a row, which is more justification to saying we shouldn't have let Lou go.

I don't want them to win, because they would then match us as the only teams to come back from down three games to none to win the Cup.

I want to see the cup lifted on Hab ice by the opposition. Ghosts of Beliveau and Richard can have their sleep disturbed.

 

[fahad203]

This is a great run for their young core's development, but some of them ain't happy that Bergevin will get re-signed and that they might miss the playoffs next season.

I think Kevin Adams is looking for a big impact player for Eichel, and KK ain't it...and he probably wants to move Eichel out of the division at least, if not the conference.

If they trade jack it will be for an established young star in the league. KK doesn't fit that bill

KK at best will be a 3rd liner

 

[Menzinger]

Habs fans are having full on melt downs, I would too honestly with the 100M Tampa team.

If the Leafs had made a run like that I would be atleast happy to make progress. Maybe being in the finals draws more hunger for next year.

Would be crazy if Montreal trades for Eichel. Seems like a smart all in play imo. Keep Suzuki and Caufield and offer K.K + a button of picks and prospects

I doubt the Habs could entice a trade unless Caufield was the main piece at this point.

 

[I am Canadian]

I doubt the Habs could entice a trade unless Caufield was the main piece at this point.

I really doubt it. Eichel is pretty much forcing his way out. He likely goes to a team in a quantity deal imo.

Etc he would go to LA but Byfield would not be the piece coming back.