Around the League playoff edition

[redcard]

Tyler Johnson Last 3 seasons

G-A-P
21-26-50 in 81 games
29-18-47 in 80 games
14-17-31 in 65 games

Dustin Brown last 3 seasons
G-A-P
28-33-61 in 81 games
22-29-51 in 72 games
17-18-35 in 66 games

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You mean those NTCs TBL has been handing out like reefers at a Snoop Dogg concert were going to come back to roost? If only we could have seen that coming

 

[Reaper45]

Tyler Johnson Last 3 seasons

G-A-P
21-26-50 in 81 games
29-18-47 in 80 games
14-17-31 in 65 games

Dustin Brown last 3 seasons
G-A-P
28-33-61 in 81 games
22-29-51 in 72 games
17-18-35 in 66 games

I wouldn't touch him as a GM. Especially off of waivers. Either give me something nice to take his contract on or retain a significant portion. I don't think anyone is chomping at the bit to help Tampon Bay.

 

[deeshamrock]

Flames signed Zac Rinaldo....good lord.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Flames signed Zac Rinaldo....good lord.

He was with them this past season. They're just bringing back the same piece of garbage.

 

[Herby]

Krug at 29 years old getting 7 years.

I amend my earlier comments in this thread about the Blues maybe having figured it out. This one will be just like almost all the other contracts people give that run well into the 30’s. These teams will never learn.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Krug at 29 years old getting 7 years.

I amend my earlier comments in this thread about the Blues maybe having figured it out.

That Faulk acquisition last summer should've been a sign. They likely would have been able to retain their captain had they not made that senseless move.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

The Blues are in the "desperately flailing to try and win another cup" portion of their window closing

 

[KingsFan7824]

Krug at 29 years old getting 7 years.

I amend my earlier comments in this thread about the Blues maybe having figured it out. This one will be just like almost all the other contracts people give that run well into the 30’s. These teams will never learn.

The system is pretty much set up for teams to never learn. Demand exceeds available supply.

 

[kingsfan28]

Markstroms 6x6 deal with the Flames is insane. You give that to a guy who has won a lot, not for one playoff year. No wonder VAN walked away.

 

[Nodoughtyboutit]

So glad we haven't overpaid for anyone. The hottest and most important commodity is cap for the next 3 years and hopefully we can use ours to further our prospect pool or take on a good player because some other other team can't afford them. No need to sign anyone other than a veteran on a league min unless we get a steal.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Was a beautiful day, I hope Rob and staff played 36 holes with his phone drowning in the bottom of a cooler.

 

[Token]

Was a beautiful day, I hope Rob and staff played 36 holes with his phone drowning in the bottom of a cooler.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Tyler Johnson Last 3 seasons

G-A-P
21-26-50 in 81 games
29-18-47 in 80 games
14-17-31 in 65 games

Dustin Brown last 3 seasons
G-A-P
28-33-61 in 81 games
22-29-51 in 72 games
17-18-35 in 66 games

Brown:
17-18, 1237 ES min, 220 PP min
18-19, 1161 ES min, 185 PP min
19-20, 1005 ES min, 165 PP min

Johnson:
17-18, 1069 ES min, 185 PP min
18-19, 1111 ES min, 128 PP min
19-20, 811 ES min, 129 PP min

Brown is getting a ridiculous amount of time as a 33, 34, 35 year old, but he's one of the few options the Kings have, and they're a bad team. Johnson probably could've gotten more time, but he's been on a deeper team, playing meaningful games, etc. Switch the teams, and I'm not sure if Johnson does any better. Brown in a lesser role probably does pretty well, but if he's playing less, the points are going down. We witnessed that.

 

[deeshamrock]

Tyler Johnson cleared, bolts will have to go to plan b

 

[deeshamrock]

 

[SFKingshomer]

So far teams in the Pacific haven’t done much to improve. Hopefully the Kings are competitive and fight for a wildcard spot. It would be good for the young guys to experience some winning...

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So far teams in the Pacific haven’t done much to improve. Hopefully the Kings are competitive and fight for a wildcard spot. It would be good for the young guys to experience some winning...

Yeah I want them to at least be in the chase and see what it takes. That's when Doughty Kopitar and Quick and Carter and Brown will be at their most valuable. And then when all is said and done hope the hockey gods do us a solid like they did Chi/NJD/NYR and vault into the top lottery spots for a d-man!

 

[KingsFan7824]

So far teams in the Pacific haven’t done much to improve. Hopefully the Kings are competitive and fight for a wildcard spot. It would be good for the young guys to experience some winning...

The Ducks still have no offense like the Kings. The Coyotes look less impressive on paper. The Canucks lose some d-men and are going to play Holtby in some games. The Oilers will still likely be better. With some more health, I don't think the Sharks are as terrible as they were last year. Vegas has proven to be sustainable. The Flames seem to be going all in.

4, probably 5 teams, that would be considered ahead of the Kings. Vilardi will likely have to be a 60 point player for the team to have enough offense to pull some wins out of the bag.

 

[Schmooley]

Improved special teams will keep them out of last place. If Quick and Peterson play out of their minds they can maybe squeak into the playoffs. Also maybe if everyone buys in and plays hard for each other they can steal some games. Big years from doughty and a guy like vilardi would go a long way.

 

[redcard]

Brown:
17-18, 1237 ES min, 220 PP min
18-19, 1161 ES min, 185 PP min
19-20, 1005 ES min, 165 PP min

Johnson:
17-18, 1069 ES min, 185 PP min
18-19, 1111 ES min, 128 PP min
19-20, 811 ES min, 129 PP min

Brown is getting a ridiculous amount of time as a 33, 34, 35 year old, but he's one of the few options the Kings have, and they're a bad team. Johnson probably could've gotten more time, but he's been on a deeper team, playing meaningful games, etc. Switch the teams, and I'm not sure if Johnson does any better. Brown in a lesser role probably does pretty well, but if he's playing less, the points are going down. We witnessed that.

I agree, its hard to compare the two, Brown get's more ice time, Johnson's on a much stronger team and getting better matchups. But considering that Johnson is 5 years younger, the numbers aren't good enough to make me eager about adding a 30 year old with his contract. Now that he's cleared, if TB wants to throw in a little something to take that cap hit, I'd be willing to at least listen.

 

[Stimpythecat]

I'd take Johnson on to reduce the cost of a deal for sergachev. Likely the only way I would be on board.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I agree, its hard to compare the two, Brown get's more ice time, Johnson's on a much stronger team and getting better matchups. But considering that Johnson is 5 years younger, the numbers aren't good enough to make me eager about adding a 30 year old with his contract. Now that he's cleared, if TB wants to throw in a little something to take that cap hit, I'd be willing to at least listen.

I'm not sure that's how you look at that though. Johnson is on a much stronger team, and while there isn't a maximum number of goals to be score in a game, today's NHL is much more systemic than it used to be. If you score enough goals early, then you just play your system, and kill the clock. Even with better matchups due to superior top end talent, if TB is up 3-0 in the 1st, they don't have to kill themselves to make it 7-0.

The Kings have no need for Johnson, and I don't think TB could or would offer enough for the Kings to take the contract, if it were even possible for the Kings to discuss such a deal.

 

[Stimpythecat]

I'm curious where Pietrangelo ends up.

Vegas would have to trade fleury with no retention or contract back.
Vancouver would have to made a trade since they are at 20 contracts with only $8 million left.
Boston looks like a front runner. they have space but a number of their best players are over 30.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I'd take Johnson on to reduce the cost of a deal for sergachev. Likely the only way I would be on board.

Of their 3 RFA's, I have to think Sergachev is the absolute last one they would get rid of. They would probably do almost anything else. Hedman is going to be 30 in Dec. McDonagh is 31. Shattenkirk is gone. If they now have a weakness, it's depth on defense. They had to re-sign Luke Schenn, and probably have to live with a 35 year old Coburn. If they had to lose a roster player, the guy they could most afford to lose is Cirelli.

I'd guess they want to take away from the roster as little as possible though. Killorn might be as easier trade to complete than Johnson.

The whole Sergachev dream is a little too much. Even if someone gave him an offer sheet, they have a week to figure it out, and I think they would. Give him $10m a year, ok, TB probably says goodbye to him then.