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ShaneFalco

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I believe this, I don't think he'd make the same mistakes twice. I def think Babcock is gonna have an uphill battle though. Seems like some players are already planning how they are gonna get him fired. Wouldn't be surprised if someone from the lockerrom put it out.



lol or we should wait for facts before trying to assume someone has mental health issues.
Whatever. Guilty or not of this, I still think he's a nut
 

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I believe this, I don't think he'd make the same mistakes twice. I def think Babcock is gonna have an uphill battle though. Seems like some players are already planning how they are gonna get him fired. Wouldn't be surprised if someone from the lockerrom put it out.



lol or we should wait for facts before trying to assume someone has mental health issues.
When have facts ever been required?
 
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Vegas has signed Comtois to a PTO. That’s a guy I had wanted the Leafs to target, 2018 WJC concerns aside.
This was a few weeks back.

I wanted Comtois too, and if we offer a league minimum contract, it supersedes a PTO and we are free to sign him.

Still hoping that happens, but highly unlikely unless someone gets hurt in camp, which would suck.
 
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No. I disagree. We don't know who they were going to pick in the first round. That's my point. It's great that TOR has Knies, but you can't claim to be part of those meetings with scouts, etc.
I am not sure how I said anything there you could disagree with. I didn't say anything definitive. I said we don't know who they would have drafted with any of those picks and that you could see how they might have picked Knies in the first round, that also suggested you could see how they would not have done that. What are you disagreeing with exactly?

I am also not in anyway claiming to be have been part of the meetings with scouts.
 

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Those are some pretty strong allegations, and these guys seem very adamant and aren't backing down. Seems like there's something to it. Wtf is Babs up to this time hahaha
 

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Those are some pretty strong allegations, and these guys seem very adamant and aren't backing down. Seems like there's something to it. Wtf is Babs up to this time hahaha
They should check Babs phone.
 

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Those are some pretty strong allegations, and these guys seem very adamant and aren't backing down. Seems like there's something to it. Wtf is Babs up to this time hahaha
Gaudreau spoke to EF and said he had no issue with it. Babs never took the phone from anyone the players would just show pics of their family to him. He also said that there was no issue if they didn't want to show. Not a Babcock supporter but the witch hunt now that he's returned being done by Spittin Chicklets is dumb. I doubt Biz will ask what Brad May has to say about Babs because it would fly in the face of what they're purporting.
 

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Those are some pretty strong allegations, and these guys seem very adamant and aren't backing down. Seems like there's something to it. Wtf is Babs up to this time hahaha
Have you ever seen any of those guys admit they’re wrong? That’s what legit media does. Not those Barstool guys.

There’s absolutely nothing to it.
 
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IPS

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Gaudreau spoke to EF and said he had no issue with it. Babs never took the phone from anyone the players would just show pics of their family to him. He also said that there was no issue if they didn't want to show. Not a Babcock supporter but the witch hunt now that he's returned being done by Spittin Chicklets is dumb. I doubt Biz will ask what Brad May has to say about Babs because it would fly in the face of what they're purporting.
The truth is probably somewhere in between.

I get it the whole thing with the witch hunt but Babs has a history of being a giant asshole.
 

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They should check Babs phone.
A player most likely didn’t like it and went crying to Biz. Probably a player that has nothing to lose because he's falling out of favor in CBus. Anonymity is terrific when you don't have to be accountable to anybody. Going to Barstool is certainly a move though....
 

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Those are some pretty strong allegations, and these guys seem very adamant and aren't backing down. Seems like there's something to it. Wtf is Babs up to this time hahaha
Sounds like they’re being played.
 

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The Coyotes have signed the following players to PTO agreements:
Peter DiLiberatore (D)
Olli Juolevi (D)
Austin Strand (D)
Hunter Drew (F)
Ryan Dzingel (F)
Patrick Harper (F)
Cameron Hebig (F)
Micah Miller (F)
Austin Poganski (F)
Colin Theisen (F)
Reece Vitelli (F)


I mean… I think they signed everyone left.
 

TheTotalPackage

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The Coyotes have signed the following players to PTO agreements:
Peter DiLiberatore (D)
Olli Juolevi (D)
Austin Strand (D)
Hunter Drew (F)
Ryan Dzingel (F)
Patrick Harper (F)
Cameron Hebig (F)
Micah Miller (F)
Austin Poganski (F)
Colin Theisen (F)
Reece Vitelli (F)


I mean… I think they signed everyone left.
Might as well put yours and my name on that list, because only two of those names are actually recognizable.
 
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Antropovsky

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A team that gets Marner of an offersheet is probably not picking in the top 16 at any point in the 4 years.

What are the odds you can get a player as good as Marner in the back half of the 1st, even if you got 4 shots at it. And the Leafs are still good enough without him that they themselves won't be a high end lottery team so getting a top 5 is unrealistic, unless you're trading 3+ firsts just to move up. like 10 - 15 spots.

Offersheets at the highest level should focus on quality not quantity. And since that is basically impossible I honestly think that offer sheets should not be allowed above a certain $$ level, like 7m.
This is a bit beyond the point. A poster blamed Matthews grees for the leafs cap situation. Matthews didn't use the RFA period as leverage. If he did, he would've been paid way more.

Tavares definitely took a pay cut to come to Toronto.

Marner was the only player (except Nylander) to use the RFA period as leverage. And he made a spectacle of it.

His agent said he wanted to be like his teammates, not like other NHL comparables. However, at that time he wasn't worth the same money on shorter term than 28 year old, center, former captain, prolific goal scorer, former 1st overall pick, and two time hart finalist Tavares.

And at that time he wasn't worth the same as Matthews, who was on his second ppg season, had a calder, played center, prolific goal scorer, 1st overall pick and was pacing Marner in 2019 but while playing with 3rd line players Johnsson, Kapanen and Marleau, while Marner was with Tavares and Hyman.

The only overpaid player was Marner and his negotiations were a distraction.
 
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