Around the League - ...in 56 Games

[willmma]

I'm much happier having Brodie here than Barrie

 

[WatchOut]

I just noticed that Leon and Mcdavid have about 150 mins of powerplay time so far this season, that is just insane. Looking at the leafs, marner leads them with about 90 mins and is ranked 50th in powerplay minutes played. Matthews leads the leafs at 68th when looking at per game instead of the totals, this is the only reason why they haven't hit 100+ points in a season and for them to do so will need a bump in powerplay time. This will probably also suggested that these two are a lot closer to the two Oilers stars then what I previously thought they were.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Are you forgetting why he was traded?

He literally WAS SUSPENDED two straight years when we needed him most because he was too stupid to think clearly.

When they took Komarov, who did the heavy lifting, away from him, he tried to do it himself, and couldn't.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

When they took Komarov, who did the heavy lifting, away from him, he tried to do it himself, and couldn't.

Babcock benched Komarov in the first playoff series and then Dubas felt like he wasn't worth whatever he had to pay him, and he was 100% correct.

Kadri has always struggled to keep his emotions in check. Delivering a pair of dirty checks (one a hit and one a crosscheck) after your teammate barely gets hit into the boards is not standing up for your teammates. It's being stupid and reckless, and the Leafs had to pay the price for it twice.

 

[Mess]

The question is whether or not Calgary can catch them

Montreal has 34 points in 29 games and if they win their next game against Vancouver they move to 36 points after 30 games and would be only -4 points behind our Leafs for the division lead, who sit at 40 points after 30, when they make up their game in hand.

Montreal who has recorded 4-2-4 in last 10 is actually gaining on our Leafs who are 5-5-0 over that time. Montreal might be losing but they keep losing in extra time and stealing a point in the games and actually gaining ground in the North Div.

Our Leafs next 2 games are against the Flames so I don't think we want Calgary to chase down Montreal at our expense.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Babcock benched Komarov in the first playoff series and then Dubas felt like he wasn't worth whatever he had to pay him, and he was 100% correct.

Kadri has always struggled to keep his emotions in check. Delivering a pair of dirty checks (one a hit and one a crosscheck) after your teammate barely gets hit into the boards is not standing up for your teammates. It's being stupid and reckless, and the Leafs had to pay the price for it twice.

All true, but none of it negates what I said.

Komarov did the bumping and return hits, without going overboard. If he had been with Kadri in those two situations, he would have responded, or not, without getting suspended, and probably without taking a penalty. Kadri would have left it for him, and would not have felt the need to do something.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

All true, but none of it negates what I said.

Komarov did the bumping and return hits, without going overboard. If he had been with Kadri in those two situations, he would have responded, or not, without getting suspended, and probably without taking a penalty. Kadri would have left it for him, and would not have felt the need to do something.

Komarov was dressed in the game where Kadri got suspended the first time. Even played 16 minutes that game.

I think Komarov got hurt the next game though, and then when he was healthy, was just not put back in.

Still, Kadri did not leave it to Komarov, and he has had many other instances where he would take it upon himself and would get himself in trouble.

 

[Warden of the North]

I'm much happier having Brodie here than Barrie

Ya, it'd not even a question

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Edmonton and Winnipeg are going at it tonight, one of them will tie us in points at the top of the standings. I suppose I’d prefer Edmonton since they’d tie us but have played more games, while if Winnipeg wins they’ll tie us in the same number of games. As always, we don’t want it to be a 3 point game.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Babcock elevated a lot of players games ... Dubas would have resigned him if he thought he played bad because of babcock coaching

Babcock did not elevate players; he misused them. Brodie was always Dubas' preferred target.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Babcock did not elevate players; he misused them. Brodie was always Dubas' preferred target.

cmon, the guy was successful everywhere he coached, every coach has players that disliked them

 

[Notsince67]

I just noticed that Leon and Mcdavid have about 150 mins of powerplay time so far this season, that is just insane. Looking at the leafs, marner leads them with about 90 mins and is ranked 50th in powerplay minutes played. Matthews leads the leafs at 68th when looking at per game instead of the totals, this is the only reason why they haven't hit 100+ points in a season and for them to do so will need a bump in powerplay time. This will probably also suggested that these two are a lot closer to the two Oilers stars then what I previously thought they were.

Yup. Cue the usual characters bitching about contracts.

 

[Notsince67]

Komarov was dressed in the game where Kadri got suspended the first time. Even played 16 minutes that game.

I think Komarov got hurt the next game though, and then when he was healthy, was just not put back in.

Still, Kadri did not leave it to Komarov, and he has had many other instances where he would take it upon himself and would get himself in trouble.

Kadri remains as the worse trade in at least 20 years of leafs history.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Kadri remains as the worse trade in at least 20 years of leafs history.

Lmao, that's not even remotely true.

 

[Menzinger]

All true, but none of it negates what I said.

Komarov did the bumping and return hits, without going overboard. If he had been with Kadri in those two situations, he would have responded, or not, without getting suspended, and probably without taking a penalty. Kadri would have left it for him, and would not have felt the need to do something.

Eh, I'm not sure I buy this. Kadri has been a player who seemed to let his emotions get the better of his decision making. And he was throwing questionable hits while Leo was still on the team

 

[Mr Hockey]

Lmao, that's not even remotely true.

can you give an example of a worse trade?

 

[Dekes For Days]

can you give an example of a worse trade?

Rask for Raycroft is an example of a bad trade. Kadri for Kerfoot + Barrie (50% retained) is a good trade, that turned out to be more just okay.

 

[Menzinger]

Rask for Raycroft is an example of a bad trade. Kadri for Kerfoot + Barrie (50% retained) is an example of a good trade, that turned out to be more just okay.

Hard to think of a worse one than this.

I always hated that 2011 draft trade up too. Was just throwing picks into the garbage heap

 

[Mr Hockey]

Rask for Raycroft is an example of a bad trade. Kadri for Kerfoot + Barrie (50% retained) is a good trade, that turned out to be more just okay.

yea that turned out to be a bad one.... I would put kadri trade deal in 2nd ....

the kadri deal was bad from the start

 

[Mr Hockey]

Hard to think of a worse one than this.

I always hated that 2011 draft trade up too. Was just throwing picks into the garbage heap

at time the Rask deal was in the leafs favor but turned out to bad because Rask becomes a HOF goalie

 

[Dekes For Days]

I would put this Kadri trade deal in 2nd

Wouldn't even make the top 10.

at time the Rask deal was in the leafs favor

1. No, it wasn't. Rask was one of the best goalie prospects in the world, and recent 1st round pick, and Raycroft was coming off an 0.879 SV% season.
2. "At the time", the Kadri trade was a massive Leaf win.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Wouldn't even make the top 10.

Rask was traded as a prospect, not an NHL player for starters, the deal went bad because Rask turned out to be elite over time .... ok name a couple worse trades?

 

[Mr Hockey]

Wouldn't even make the top 10.

1. No, it wasn't. Rask was one of the best goalie prospects in the world, and recent 1st round pick, and Raycroft was coming off an 0.879 SV% season.
2. "At the time", the Kadri trade was a massive Leaf win.

Leafs had poogie and Rask as prospects at the time, they decided to move Rask, nobody complained when the trade was made , years later is when people complained about it

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Phil Kessel for two 1sts and a 2nd has to rank worse than the Kadri deal.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Rask was traded as a prospect, not an NHL player for starters, the deal went bad because Rask turned out to be elite over time

The deal was always bad, from the moment it was made.

ok name a couple worse trades?

Toskala trade... Kessel trade... Leetch trade... Stempniak trade... etc.