Around the League delayed season edition

[Brodeur]

I think that after the Kings failed to sign a few junior league prospects two years after their draft years (which happened with Matt Zultek and Justin Papineau), the organization felt burned in using high picks to select prospects who could walk away within a couple of seasons, so they seemed to favor drafting more and more collegiate and European prospects.

I think with Zultek, the Kings knew they would get the 43rd pick in the 1999 Draft as compensation for not signing him. Sometimes teams decided they'd rather have a redo than sign the guy. As I remember it, Zultek's play hit a plateau in juniors and he'd get re-drafted 56th in 1999 by Boston.

I don't remember the circumstances with Papineau in 2000. His D+2 numbers were down from his D+1 season. Papineau was redrafted in the third round and the Kings bypassed him in the second. 1999-2001 also were very heavy European years from what I remember but that was more because of a lull in American and Canadian talent. Back in those days, the NCAA guys had to wait an extra year before entering the draft. So along with having their rights for an extra year, maybe there was a sense that you had a better idea with what you were getting out of a 19 year old.

 

[deeshamrock]

Toffoli pots #8 vs the Canucks, Habs up 3-1. They are playing exceptionally well, best of any team I've seen so far.

 

[kilowatt]

Toffoli pots #8 vs the Canucks, Habs up 3-1. They are playing exceptionally well, best of any team I've seen so far.

Just got his second of the game on a sick move. He might be pretty good. I don't think he was the problem in LA.

 

[RaymondReddington]

Toffoli #9...killing the Nucks

 

[Jericho111091]

Toffoli continues to destroy the Canucks, plus BortBort and Lewis each have goals vs Calgary

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Impossible, I was told Forbort wasn't an NHLer, Lewis was done, and Toffoli wasn't a top sixer...how are these guys scoring from the AHL?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Canucks fans are losing their minds over Jim Benning’s handling of the Toffoli trade and failure to re-sign him. Can’t blame them.

 

[kilowatt]

Impossible, I was told Forbort wasn't an NHLer, Lewis was done, and Toffoli wasn't a top sixer...how are these guys scoring from the AHL?

Forbort still sucks regardless, but Lewis is still a solid bottom-six guy (always was) and Toffoli scored eighteen goals for us last season, good for second on the team (in only 58 games, compared to Kopitar's 21 in 70).

 

[kilowatt]

Canucks fans are losing their minds over Jim Benning’s handling of the Toffoli trade and failure to re-sign him. Can’t blame them.

Yeah, as they should. Toffoli would put that team into the "serious contender" category.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Been watching every Blues game since Clifford signed there and my god Justin Faulk is a great D-Man.

 

[Sparky206]

Turned on the intermission VAN broadcast, was not disappointed. The faces of the SN hosts were almost verging on tears, "Tyler Madden isn't even in the NHL yet and the trade is already horrible"

 

[deeshamrock]

Just got his second of the game on a sick move. He might be pretty good. I don't think he was the problem in LA.

Sometimes it's just a matter of finding a new team, with a system that is better suited. He lookes very comfortable on the ice, thriving in the speedier system. He looked good in Vancouver, but not like this.

 

[deeshamrock]

Been watching every Blues game since Clifford signed there and my god Justin Faulk is a great D-Man.

Loved Faulk when he was on the Canes, thought he was underrated, still think so. Plays a smart game, and very reliable.

 

[deeshamrock]

 

[deeshamrock]

 

[kovacro]

Canucks fans are losing their minds over Jim Benning’s handling of the Toffoli trade and failure to re-sign him. Can’t blame them.

Not to mention letting Markstrom walk for Holtby. Jeebus.

 

[King'sPawn]

Impossible, I was told Forbort wasn't an NHLer, Lewis was done, and Toffoli wasn't a top sixer...how are these guys scoring from the AHL?

Forbort was a minutes eater and Lewis is a good bottom-sixer.

Toffoli is very hot and cold, though, so this seems a very disingenuous statement.

If you feel Toffoli is consistent enough to keep up this production, every team would have poured $6 million+ for several years.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I thought my post was dripping with facetiousness but I guess not

 

[Bandit]

Impossible, I was told Forbort wasn't an NHLer, Lewis was done, and Toffoli wasn't a top sixer...how are these guys scoring from the AHL?

They’re a long way from Manhattan Beach.

 

[Brodeur]

Not to mention letting Markstrom walk for Holtby. Jeebus.

Tough spot with Markstrom since they painted themselves into a corner with the cap due to previous contracts. And then they'd have to make a decision before the Seattle Expansion Draft. Markstrom got a NMC with Calgary, so he would have been required to be protected. Vancouver would have either expose Demko or trade him for peanuts to one of the few teams who didn't already have a goalie to protect. It was a small sample size, but Demko's finish in the playoffs probably gave them a little confidence to move forward with him as their future #1.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Yeah, as they should. Toffoli would put that team into the "serious contender" category.

Woah that was some serious salt in the wound. Still fresh, too.

 

[FrozenKing18]

Lol I wasnt able to keep up with the whole Toffoli thing. That’s gotta sting for the Nucks. Did they not have enough cap space to re-sign Toffoli? Or they just chose not to bring him back? Last thing I remember he was playing decent along with Pearson.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Lol I wasnt able to keep up with the whole Toffoli thing. That’s gotta sting for the Nucks. Did they not have enough cap space to re-sign Toffoli? Or they just chose not to bring him back? Last thing I remember he was playing decent along with Pearson.

No money I believe. Or at least they decided to use that money on other players they thought were more valuable.

 

[BringTheReign]

Lol I wasnt able to keep up with the whole Toffoli thing. That’s gotta sting for the Nucks. Did they not have enough cap space to re-sign Toffoli? Or they just chose not to bring him back? Last thing I remember he was playing decent along with Pearson.

I'm guessing they strung him along while also dealing with Markstrom and Tanev, and then they lost all of them. Stetcher too.

I'm glad to see Toffoli doing so well. It would be crazy if he kept up a 50 goal pace this year. Crazy he's only making $4M.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]