Svechhammer
THIS is hockey?
- Jun 8, 2017
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Biz vs Bouy
The showdown we didn't know we needed in hockey
The showdown we didn't know we needed in hockey
When they suddenly aren’t playing Buffalo?Devils also pretty mid suddenly.
When they suddenly aren’t playing Buffalo?
I still think they will ultimately have a good season and have a good shot at the playoffs. I was also one of the folks that mentioned that they had a f*** ton of ground to make up from where they finished last year and winning the offseason doesn't always translate to being the best team. I think their goalie tandem was fairly overrated by many people though it will be better if they settle in with Pesce and Hughes back.When they suddenly aren’t playing Buffalo?
Its a team sport, its really hard to judge how good a team is going to be by just the roster. RBA has proven time and again he can coach a group of guys to be a team. Has Keefe ever done that?
Devils could be legit now that their D is getting healthy. Let's see how they look with the full squad and have had some time to gel. For me it's about how they look defensively. We know they have weapons, new coach, new goalies, but can they gap up and clear big boys from the crease? Are they actually more playoff-ready, or do they just look that way on paper? Even as big of a fan of the Canes as I am, it's hard to look at both our roster and theirs and say that our roster looks better.
Pesce of today ain't the same Pesce of 3-5 years ago for us. Last year he had dropped off considerably in my view and Skjei was doing the heavier lifting on the pairing. The year before he had started to show signs of decline. I don't think he'll be the answer for NJ. He should help them for the next couple years but not as much as they hoped when they signed him. I'm a big fan and while I'm not happy he went to NJ I do still want to see him personally do well and get/stay healthy. I just don't think it'll happen the way they all expect.IMO I think the Devils are going to sink or swim based on how well Pesce fits in to their defense. Their biggest need for years has been a stay at home defenseman who excels at preventing shots on goal and keeping the puck away from the net. Pesce fits their needs perfectly.
If he has them able to ice a defensive line like we had with him and Skjei, it completely changes how NJ is able to play. They would be able to better neutralize the opposing offensive attack, and should have more outlets for their offense to work. On paper, him coming back in should have them looking like one of the best teams in the league, if not the best.
But, he also isn't as quick as he used to be and does tend to get injured fairly frequently. And there is no guarantee he gels with anyone on their defense, and his style might not translate to the speed they want to play, so who knows, it might all be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
IMO I think the Devils are going to sink or swim based on how well Pesce fits in to their defense. Their biggest need for years has been a stay at home defenseman who excels at preventing shots on goal and keeping the puck away from the net. Pesce fits their needs perfectly.
If he has them able to ice a defensive line like we had with him and Skjei, it completely changes how NJ is able to play. They would be able to better neutralize the opposing offensive attack, and should have more outlets for their offense to work. On paper, him coming back in should have them looking like one of the best teams in the league, if not the best.
But, he also isn't as quick as he used to be and does tend to get injured fairly frequently. And there is no guarantee he gels with anyone on their defense, and his style might not translate to the speed they want to play, so who knows, it might all be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Our roster is better than theirs.....see, it's not that hard at all.
Devils could be legit now that their D is getting healthy. Let's see how they look with the full squad and have had some time to gel. For me it's about how they look defensively. We know they have weapons, new coach, new goalies, but can they gap up and clear big boys from the crease? Are they actually more playoff-ready, or do they just look that way on paper? Even as big of a fan of the Canes as I am, it's hard to look at both our roster and theirs and say that our roster looks better.
Agree on Nelson. Also, I've watched the Devils a couple of times. Timo Meier looks great and he would have been a perfect Cane with how he plays and Rod would have loved him.If the Islanders fall flat this year, I hope we target Nelson at the deadline. He’d be a near perfect add to the group.
NelsonIf the Islanders fall flat this year, I hope we target Nelson at the deadline. He’d be a near perfect add to the group.
FtfyCrosby
Nelson
Bennett
Monahan
Keeping a list of guys that would be pretty perfect behind Aho.
I read their last GDT as I watched last night's game. GDT's are often full of emotional takes and over-reactions and while Dougie didn't play well last night, he missed most of last year with injury so he may take more time to get back..Some Devils fans not happy with their play. Targeted players are Palat and our old friend Dougie.
I'm not sure where this is coming from. Haven't you seen the level headed game day threads on this board?I read their last GDT as I watched last night's game. GDT's are often full of emotional takes and over-reactions and while Dougie didn't play well last night, he missed most of last year with injury so he may take more time to get back..
That said, some of the things they are complaining about are things everyone who watched him knew. He's not physical for how big he is, he's not fleet of foot (and with age/injuries is getting slower), sometimes gets lost in his own zone, and eventually, that contract won't age well. He generates offense, has a great shot, and is an underrated passer. I think he'll eventually come around this year.
I did get a kick out of one poster calling him Sluggie.
Contracts being part of the deal, I like Ghost better to be honest.I'll be honest I thought it was a mistake letting Dougie walk. He wasn't perfect here but he was a big part of the franchise turnaround and had become a fan favorite. He also provided a scoring touch that the blue-line didn't have for the longest time.
I now understand why he was allowed to walk. Hell TDA in the season after made me forget that Dougie left.