Around the League 44: The Three Thousand Mile Final

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I would say an elbow to the head is egregious.

And if you jump into the hit that can negate "keeping your arms low", your arms are high because you jumped. Jumping and putting your arms up can both lead to head contact via unnecessary moves.
I’m not saying all elbows to the head shouldn’t be considered egregious, that’s a deeper conversation. I’m saying there’s a minor for elbowing. Therefore elbowing is a minor unless there’s something special about it. I’m not saying it’s cool to jump up and elbow someone in the head, it should be punished. Just from what I’ve seen over my lifetime and including that it’s changed over the years I’m not seeing anything here for more. Maybe a fine?

They won’t see intent to elbow him in the head. I don’t really either, though that’s the result. Jumping then extending the elbows through usually implies more intent. This is more on the edge than most because he jumped, but because he kept his arms down the extension was really minimal. There was a little push out and that’s where the contact was for sure. I think he meant to hit him strong and high, but then restrained himself and kept his arms low. Because the result was a check to the head resulting in an injury I actually agree there should’ve been more, but by how they call the games I don’t think they will.

It’s hard to automatically give more off an injury though, because there are a lot of purely accidental hits that lead to injury. There’s also the strong chance of gamesmanship. They didn’t need to rush back Barkov in this game, and every player is playing things up at least a little on everything. It’s hard to be a ref and call something because it looks like someone may be actually hurt.
 
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I mean honestly, I could probably make an excel that does the exact same thing as CapFriendly, it's really not that complicated if you have all your teams contractual info
thing is you need the contract info for all 31 other teams as well. Not the hardest thing to build, but pretty hard to actually get since not all teams are as open with their contract info as the Canes.
 

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That’s an insane take. Publishing publicly? I disagree but if that’s the NHL’s stance then fine. But it sounds like double digit teams will now flat out not know the cap situation of the teams around the league.

The NHL can’t operate a salary capped league if they don’t want all the teams to know the contract situations of players around the league. Like, it’s truly insane.

Edit: @Chrispy saying the same thing lol
 

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The weird thing is I don't think the league gets how popular armchair GM type stuff actually is. It's not just the diehards that used those tools to look at the cap situation for (insert favorite team here), even some casuals that I've talked to at soccer games and the like have been like "so do you think they'll re-sign Pesce? the cap space looks like it could be kindof tight there", from guys that literally have never been to a Canes game in their life. But they've watched on TV and have resources like that available to pull up the teams information just about instantly.
 
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"The NHL believes that they should not be in the business of publishing this stuff, as a matter of fact I've been told several times that the relationship between the NHL and CapFriendly was icy"

Suddenly the asisine bullshit suddenly makes sense re: how the NHL insist on keeping all the official expansion draft rules undisclosed so that we the audience only get the broken phones version through the insider reporters.

They're a bunch of motherf***ing motherf***ers.
 

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That's @Zirakzigil autobiography :laugh::sarcasm::laugh:
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"The NHL believes that they should not be in the business of publishing this stuff, as a matter of fact I've been told several times that the relationship between the NHL and CapFriendly was icy"

Suddenly the asisine bullshit suddenly makes sense re: how the NHL insist on keeping all the official expansion draft rules undisclosed so that we the audience only get the broken phones version through the insider reporters.

They're a bunch of motherf***ing motherf***ers.
I mean, I honestly get the logic. They don't want fans hating players because of their contracts, the money side genuinely does put distance between players and fans. A lot more of us would be rooting for KK if it wasn't for that bear of a contract. Look at a guy like Nurse in Edmonton- he's not a great player, but he's not terrible, either (recent stretch of play notwithstanding), but he's roundly despised mostly because people know the terms of his contract and have (largely correctly) decided that it's hurting the team.

The NHL wants fans to love the players and teams without worrying about the money.

The trouble is, it's a cap league, and contracts matter. A lot. If you have a big fan favorite who gets traded for nothing, fans turn against the team if they don't know that that guy had an awful contract the team had to pay to get rid of. How would we have interpreted the Marleau thing if not for understanding the contracts and the cap?

The NHL wants a hard cap for a million very good reasons. But when you have a hard cap and guaranteed contracts, those contracts are essential to understanding why your team is what it is and why they do what they do with player moves. I get that it can put barriers between fans and players, but fans aren't going to be stupid adoring children who never question the league. The league needs to get over that and actually engage honestly with what is, after all, the best educated fanbase of any major NA sport.
 

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I'm torn. On the one hand, I do love the North Star color scheme. On the other hand, I don't think it works well with the Wild logo. The darker green+darker yellow+red works best for the Wild logo.
I honestly love the Wild scheme. Green and red is a wonderful color combo that does not have to be limited to Christmas, though I hated their red phase. They should be a forest green team. I don't hate the North Stars scheme, but it's a little too bright for me, and IMO the current home/away set is one of the nicest jerseys in the NHL. And yeah, that logo looks so much better with the sunrise/sunset red as the sky.
 
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