Around the League - 2023 Offseason Edition

[the_fan]

Cozens, Zegras, Seider are all better picks at this point. Boldy probably as well

You don’t know that. Still too early to say. Let’s see Byram play a full season first

 

[AvsGuy]

They drafted Byram over Seider. Huge mistake.

Disagree. All the correct stars aligned to have the right players in the right positions to win the Cup in 2022, there's no saying that happens with Seider getting 2nd pairing ice time here instead of Byram

The only thing separating these two at this point is health, and if Byram's health is the one factor preventing his career from going completely upward, that's not a solid detractor on his draft position. He's right there with Seider in ability

 

[expatriatedtexan]

You don’t know that. Still too early to say. Let’s see Byram play a full season first

That's not helping his cause.

 

[the_fan]

That's not helping his cause.

Yeah and again, we don’t know yet. If he’s always hurt and never plays more than 20 or 30 games in his career, then we can say we should have drafted someone else. The player is good, he’s not a bust or anything and can very well turn out to be a legit 1st pair D which will be more valuable than Zegras or the other forwards Avs could have drafted instead

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Balthazar]

Ducks are like the opposite of the Sens. They have cap space and should sign their young stars to 8 years...but they rather play hard ball and bridge them.

What's the point of bridging Zegras and Drysdale when you don't need the cap space immediately?

They'll get more expensive in 2-3 years and you'll hurt yourself down the road when you actually need the space. Poor vision.

When you give max term to good players out of ELC the team wins nearly 100% of the time.

 

[henchman21]

If you believe the sewing circle... Zegras wants >9.5m for a long-term deal. Where I can understand some pause there. All the talent in the world to live up to that deal, but if he stagnates around 65 points, it is a bit rich considering his play defensively.

 

[S E P H]

If you believe the sewing circle... Zegras wants >9.5m for a long-term deal. Where I can understand some pause there. All the talent in the world to live up to that deal, but if he stagnates around 65 points, it is a bit rich considering his play defensively.

Hard to sign players who are very confident in their ability. We went through the same thing with Zadorov and probably soon-to-be Byram further down the road.

 

[Balthazar]

If you believe the sewing circle... Zegras wants >9.5m for a long-term deal. Where I can understand some pause there. All the talent in the world to live up to that deal, but if he stagnates around 65 points, it is a bit rich considering his play defensively.

They should consider trading him. What's his place on this team anyway? Will he stay at center with Carlsson and Mctavish in the mix?

 

[AvsGuy]

I trade Zegras' entitled ass long before I ever give him what Makar makes

He's the cruise ship DJ of NHL players, fluorescent vests and sparklers aren't winning you a Cup

 

[henchman21]

They should consider trading him. What's his place on this team anyway? Will he stay at center with Carlsson and Mctavish in the mix?

His place is as a 1C. Carlsson should be a damn good player and has 1C potential... but he doesn't have Zegras' pure upside. Zegras has pure ability a few levels higher than either of those guys. It wouldn't be shocking at all to see Zegras put up 90-95 points. It would absolutely be shocking to see McTavish or Carlsson do that.

The most likely to move to wing might be Carlsson (he hasn't played all that much center at the highest levels), but one of the three will be on the wing in the end.

 

[Chiarelli]

Ducks are like the opposite of the Sens. They have cap space and should sign their young stars to 8 years...but they rather play hard ball and bridge them.

What's the point of bridging Zegras and Drysdale when you don't need the cap space immediately?

They'll get more expensive in 2-3 years and you'll hurt yourself down the road when you actually need the space. Poor vision.

When you give max term to good players out of ELC the team wins nearly 100% of the time.

I think it’s more the player than the team making that call trying to max earnings. I could be wrong tho

 

[The Kingslayer]

Disagree. All the correct stars aligned to have the right players in the right positions to win the Cup in 2022, there's no saying that happens with Seider getting 2nd pairing ice time here instead of Byram

The only thing separating these two at this point is health, and if Byram's health is the one factor preventing his career from going completely upward, that's not a solid detractor on his draft position. He's right there with Seider in ability

I love Bo Byram. Ya'll to easy.

 

[The Puckhound]

Vancouver Canucks are the Manchester United or Juventus of the NHL. Hilarious organisation.

Those are literally the two most successful clubs in the history of their respective leagues. The Canucks have never won anything lol. I know you are taking the angle of inept and meddling management, but just seems odd to compare them.

 

[S E P H]

Those are literally the two most successful clubs in the history of their respective leagues. The Canucks have never won anything lol. I know you are taking the angle of inept and meddling management, but just seems odd to compare them.

Well, all the bad clubs get relegated. If you want me to factor in history, then think of Sunderland.

 

[Ceremony]

I feel as if people aren't factoring in the fact that Byram is a #baller when they judge his drafting.

 

[Pokecheque]

Zegras has all the makings of a legit franchise center. Pay the man, or at the very least TRY and pay the man. If the rumored lowball offers are to be believed, I don't blame Z if he ends up requesting a trade.

Anaheim's continually cash-strapped owner had no issue overpaying washed-up vets, but he balks at the prospect of paying that kind of money for a top player during his prime years? I get the hesitancy but he really should have sold the team a long time ago.

 

[henchman21]

I wouldn't be entirely shocked if Zegras ended up with the Rags, Sabres, or Devils.

 

[Pokecheque]

I wouldn't be entirely shocked if Zegras ended up with the Rags, Sabres, or Devils.

Oh dear God if he ended up in NJ...

 

[S E P H]

I wouldn't be entirely shocked if Zegras ended up with the Rags, Sabres, or Devils.

Not sure I ever see Devils trading Hischer or J. Hughes to make room for Zegras, except if they see him as a winger.

 

[Pokecheque]

Not sure I ever see Devils trading Hischer or J. Hughes to make room for Zegras, except if they see him as a winger.

They wouldn't have to trade either. Bratt and/or Mercer as part of a package deal could get the job done, then go with the best 1-2-3 center tandem in the league.

 

[S E P H]

They wouldn't have to trade either. Bratt and/or Mercer as part of a package deal could get the job done, then go with the best 1-2-3 center tandem in the league.

I don't disagree in the slightest - personally speaking, I wouldn't trade Mercer if I were them - but Zegras really comes across as a player who needs to be "the guy" for his specific team akin to Ovechkin. He would be with a lot of BFF's on that Devils team no doubt, but I do think the egos would start to clash between them once they start entering their prime.

 

[Pokecheque]

I don't disagree in the slightest - personally speaking, I wouldn't trade Mercer if I were them - but Zegras really comes across as a player who needs to be "the guy" for his specific team akin to Ovechkin. He would be with a lot of BFF's on that Devils team no doubt, but I do think the egos would start to clash between them once they start entering their prime.

I seriously doubt that--he was on an insanely stacked team in the USHL and excelled there in a 3rd/4th line role. He may have an ego but no way do I see him scoffing at the opportunity to play on a Cup favorite just because his old buddy from the USNTDP is the face of the franchise.

And if Mercer were able to snag Trevor Zegras I trade him tomorrow without hesitation. Probably Bratt too since he doesn't appear to be staying in NJ long-term.

 

[AvsGuy]

I think on the ideal team Zegras is a 2C

Don't see franchise material there but I've been wrong before

 

[Bill Peckerskull]