henchman21
Mr. Meeseeks
- Feb 24, 2012
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I mentioned on this site, maybe not on this forum that if golf can be successful, then so can hockey. I'm not necessarily talking about the 45-year-old upper middle-class dentists, businessmen, or doctors who play on a Thursday at 11:30 a.m. I think those naturally gravitate towards this activity, but I am talking about the 8 or 14-year-old kids whose dad is buying them a forge iron set and giving them private practice. Hockey gear isn't truly that expensive when you're talking about anybody that is 20 years old or older as they're normally done growing by then.
The problem is that 7 to 18-year-old gap where you're normally buying gear almost every two to three years or so because of growth spurts. Then on top of that, you have to pay a lot for the organisational fees that include jerseys, ice time practice, and tournaments. That probably scares off a lot of parents right there, even though there are absolutely deals made out there on equipment. Everyone sees Bauer and CCM skates or sticks, but there is an all-black stick company that makes high-quality sticks for only 100 bucks. Buying brand new skates that are two or three-year-old models can lead to almost 600 to 800 dollars of savings instead of going after the newest label. People don't want to put in the work so they just see hockey as super expensive overall and not within their price range. Some of that is definitely hockey and NHL's fault as they need to convince more parents like Auston Matthew's dad to invest the time to find equipment and put in the payment for his son's ice practice which they ain't doing. When you get to the junior level for high-end leagues, the reports found that the cost wasn't different if it was a junior A football programme or hockey programme, it is simply the costs to get there to have your kid be that good which is a difference maker.
I still believe the biggest problem and fault is at the grassroots level. This is where you have entitled parents, the politics, and racism tend to happen. Every middle school in America and Canada has a gym that is made for basketball and normally every school has a field where you can put a baseball diamond, futball nets, or throwball rugby goalposts. Hockey doesn't need a rink by any means in these schools, but just get exposed to the likes of floorball. Knowing and playing floorball will eventually expose kids and people to other sports like ice or field hockey. As of now, you ain't convincing a dad that hockey is a legitimate sport that his son can play in Texas over the likes of throwball or football. You ain't convincing the bloke at the Seattle Times that the Kraken are just as important as the Seahawks or UoO Ducks. A lack of exposure is the main problem because if you didn't grow up playing, watching, or knowing about it, then you won't appreciate how truly amazing it is as a sport.
Golf is still very much a rich person's sport. There has been a lot of progress made, but the demographics show they have a long ways to go. Much more so than hockey. One advantage golf has though is that it is a lifetime sport. If you enjoy it, you have a sport that can be reasonably played into your 70s.
But to me, you can't really compare team vs individual sports all that well.
Soccer will always be the most popular sport in the world, it's just taking time for America to catch up.
Kind of a myth that soccer isn't popular in the US. It has the 2nd most former or current participants of any sport in the US, only baseball tops it. It helps that the stat includes women where women's football is about as niche as it gets. Still, popular sport. Just on the men's side of the equation, it is an offseason sport or something that kids do growing up and never play after 10/12. The participation rate goes down dramatically as football and basketball take over as the dominant sports and baseball maintains.
Hockey and soccer have been hiding concussions too. All sports leagues with head impacts have been trying to keep their head in the sand. Hockey is arguably the shadiest of all the sports.
Throw-ball: a sport that hides concussions and where you deflate an egg-shaped ball and throw it or run with it.
Sadly it just isn't equipment. That is actually a fairly easy issue to solve and many places do it provided there is need. It is more about league fees, ice time, travel, etc. A local league I coached in would cost 700. Then there was mandatory travel for 10 road weekends. Where there wasn't a school bus to take kids, parents had to travel in groups and stay in their own hotel rooms. Add in food and gas... we're talking 5-600+ a weekend. Camps (good ones anyway) are 500-1000+. Suddenly the sport is 5-8k a year outside of equipment. That is before we get into the actual issue of facilities. Fort Collins, Greeley, and Loveland only have 3 facilities total between them. There has to be 50++ places to play basketball. 15+ places for football. Even Denver, which actually isn't bad in this area I think has 8 public rinks in the metro area. I think Boulder has 3 more. I could be slightly off, but the point is that there just isn't massive infrastructure there to bring the game to the masses. It is pretty easy to get the public in most places to support a rec center, but unless you're in Minnesota, Wisconsin or New Englands... good luck getting a hockey rink attached. If you're in those areas though, you can find plenty of rinks. I think Duluth/Superior has something like 6 or 7 indoor rinks combined and in the winter has 10++ outdoor.... as an urban population of about 115k. Then all the little towns outside them typically have one.We've got a chain called Play It Again Sports, and they sell a ton of used gear in addition to the new stuff. With how quickly kids grow out of things, you can buy a used pair of skates, helmet, gloves, pads, etc dirt cheap and they're basically in new condition.
Y'all will be happy to know that at 50 years young, I actually purchased my first stick last winter and played a little shinny for the first time in my life. What an absolute thrill. I can't skate worth a shirt and fall down a lot, but I got better in the three or four sessions and am looking forward to getting a little ice time this fall as well. I'm thinking if I can just stay on my feet a little more and point out the bad guys, I have a chance as a Nate Guinen type dman. *LOL*
I really don't think the hockey issue is exposure from a media sense. It is simply a fast, complex game with rules that casuals don't have a clue on. If you come in without knowing a thing, you're bound to be lost without some effort to understand the game. That effort is typicaly a barrier. Add to that, the fighting and physicality are key factors in the casual popularity, but are being slowly taken out of the game. Adding even more to that, there is a very low participation rate. There is a lot keeping hockey from being a top sport in the US.