Around the League - 2023 Offseason Edition

[LOFIN]

How does Tampa have a "dark future", unless we are talking about 10 years from now on lol. Their stars are not that old (compared to say the Penguins or Washington), and they are locked up to good deals for multiple years. I don't know about their prospect pool, but they usually draft well. They don't really have draft capital for next year and no first for 2025, but other than that they still have picks for the future. They can do a retool around their core.

 

[henchman21]

How does Tampa have a "dark future", unless we are talking about 10 years from now on lol. Their stars are not that old (compared to say the Penguins or Washington), and they are locked up to good deals for multiple years. I don't know about their prospect pool, but they usually draft well. They don't really have draft capital for next year and no first for 2025, but other than that they still have picks for the future. They can do a retool around their core.

The core is getting pretty old actually (Hedman, Stamkos, and Kuch especially) and guys like Cernak have a lot of wear excessive of the miles. Then the pool does have some talent that is underrated, but it isn’t going to make up for things. Playoff team right now phasing out over the next 2-4 seasons. Then a full scale rebuild is needed. They won’t be able to retool at this point. Which is why they are spending to just hold on.

 

[LOFIN]

The core is getting pretty old actually (Hedman, Stamkos, and Kuch especially) and guys like Cernak have a lot of wear excessive of the miles. Then the pool does have some talent that is underrated, but it isn’t going to make up for things. Playoff team right now phasing out over the next 2-4 seasons. Then a full scale rebuild is needed. They won’t be able to retool at this point. Which is why they are spending to just hold on.

I disagree with them getting old, at least if you lump them together with teams like Washington and Pittsburgh. Vasilevsky is 29, Hedman turns 33, Kucherov is 30, Point is 29, Stamkos is 33. That's still 4-5 years of your top players being pretty damn good.

 

[Balthazar]

I disagree with them getting old, at least if you lump them together with teams like Washington and Pittsburgh. Vasilevsky is 29, Hedman turns 33, Kucherov is 30, Point is 29, Stamkos is 33. That's still 4-5 years of your top players being pretty damn good.

That's old as f***

They may have one more shot next year but it's a very small one.

 

[henchman21]

I disagree with them getting old, at least if you lump them together with teams like Washington and Pittsburgh. Vasilevsky is 29, Hedman turns 33, Kucherov is 30, Point is 29, Stamkos is 33. That's still 4-5 years of your top players being pretty damn good.

In hockey age... that's old AF.

Point is 27 though, he's got some time and so does Cirelli and Serg. Vasi is a generational goalie IMO, so he should last into his mid to late 30s (plus goalies just age weird in general). They'll be a playoff team for a bit (my guess is 3 years) just based on their super high floor... but I don't see them actually contending again. I think their pool is a bit underrated, but even assuming that, there isn't enough there to supplement. The future assets are gone or limited to spend enough to pull the needed pieces in. They had a fantastic run, but their days as a top team are over.

All that said, Vinik won't allow them to suck for long. I expect they'll bottom out for 2-3 seasons and he'll invest where ever he needs to get the team back up.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Detroit has an easily top 5 pool (I’d say top 2 or 3) with buildable and tough to get pieces in the NHL. I could get swapping with Ottawa, but Detroit should be in the conversation. They’ll have the best defense in the league 3 years from now and 3 horses at center.

Right now Detroit has Seider and a bunch of prospects to build that best defense in the league, the established NHLers aren't anything special. All it takes is that guys don't hit their potential and they won't even get close to being that great of a group.

 

[Hasbro]

That's old as f***

They may have one more shot next year but it's a very small one.

 

[henchman21]

Right now Detroit has Seider and a bunch of prospects to build that best defense in the league, the established NHLers aren't anything special. All it takes is that guys don't hit their potential and they won't even get close to being that great of a group.

Seider and Walman are absolutely legit guys today. People skip over Walman because he doesn't have flashy numbers, but he is a phenominal defensemen. Edvinsson and Wallinder both look like future top pairing guys with Edvinsson maybe having more (he's got star potential IMO), and both are on the cusp of making the show. Beyond them they have a plethora of guys who project as middle and bottom pairing guys, some with high end specialist capabilities (ASP being one).

IMO the Red Wings' future depends on Larkin, Danielson and Kasper. Larkin is a #1C, but not a high end one. So either both Danielson and Kasper have to be very good and Detroit runs 3 very good lines (and Larkin has to age well)... or one of Danielson or Kasper have to elevate to a higher level than Larkin. I personally think both have that potential, but it isn't a super likely outcome.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Seider and Walman are absolutely legit guys today. People skip over Walman because he doesn't have flashy numbers, but he is a phenominal defensemen. Edvinsson and Wallinder both look like future top pairing guys with Edvinsson maybe having more (he's got star potential IMO), and both are on the cusp of making the show. Beyond them they have a plethora of guys who project as middle and bottom pairing guys, some with high end specialist capabilities (ASP being one).

Sure, it has potential to be great. However, we have seen so many teams have potential and see their prospects not quite live up to expectations.

It's way too early to crown them the future best Dcore of the entire league imo.

 

[henchman21]

Sure, it has potential to be great. However, we have seen so many teams have potential and see their prospects not quite live up to expectations.

It's way too early to crown them the future best Dcore of the entire league imo.

I mean... 3 years changes a lot. You could literally say any prediction is way too early, but what we do is speculate here.

 

[The Moops]

Just got pinged about this job. What a joke. Especially if you look at the requirements. They want a degree and 5 years of experience.

I remember criticizing the Avs posting and that was 4x the salary range. Woof

 

[henchman21]

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Just got pinged about this job. What a joke. Especially if you look at the requirements. They want a degree and 5 years of experience.

I remember criticizing the Avs posting and that was 4x the salary range. Woof

It is rather insane how little professional sports pay to staff until they work near the top of a front office... then it is absurd how much they pay.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[henchman21]

Guentzel on LTIR, Granlund in the trade clears 11m off the cap (though they were a few mil over)... EK's hit is 11.5m.... seems like that'll be coming along shortly.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah until Kasper and Danielson actually hit, I don’t see how you can have them above the Sens personally. The C for detroit is dogshit right now, at least for contenders and teams potentially moving into contender levels.

 

[The Abusement Park]

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Just got pinged about this job. What a joke. Especially if you look at the requirements. They want a degree and 5 years of experience.

I remember criticizing the Avs posting and that was 4x the salary range. Woof

Lmao I make double the high range there. And my job only requires being 18, semi mobile and a drivers license.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Guentzel on LTIR, Granlund in the trade clears 11m off the cap (though they were a few mil over)... EK's hit is 11.5m.... seems like that'll be coming along shortly.

12 weeks is 3 months. Season doesn't start for nearly 3 months. Doubt that LTIR plays any role in them landing Karlsson

 

[Ceremony]

I have no idea what "Full Stack Software Engineer" entails but 15 grand a year doesn't seem very fair.

 

[henchman21]

12 weeks is 3 months. Season doesn't start for nearly 3 months. Doubt that LTIR plays any role in them landing Karlsson

He'll be 're-evaluated' in 12 weeks... but it isn't about Guentzel being on LTIR all year, it is about them being able to fit under the offseason cap, have it be manageable to work out before the season, and give time to work out a Petry deal as he his the current hangup (doesn't want to go to San Jose).

I have no idea what "Full Stack Software Engineer" entails but 15 grand a year doesn't seem very fair.

To be fair to Detroit, you could buy a house for ~2 years worth of salary. In Denver it might take 10.

 

[Balthazar]

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Just got pinged about this job. What a joke. Especially if you look at the requirements. They want a degree and 5 years of experience.

I remember criticizing the Avs posting and that was 4x the salary range. Woof

15k-35k for a full-stack software engineer. Gotta be a 1 day/week part-time job, at most.

 

[MacKaRant]

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Just got pinged about this job. What a joke. Especially if you look at the requirements. They want a degree and 5 years of experience.

I remember criticizing the Avs posting and that was 4x the salary range. Woof

Apprenticeship positions in the field pay more than that. I can't believe they expect someone with multiple years of experience to go for that salary. I guess because it's sports and there's one dude out there desperate to get foot in the door?

 

[LOFIN]

Apprenticeship positions in the field pay more than that. I can't believe they expect someone with multiple years of experience to go for that salary. I guess because it's sports and there's one dude out there desperate to get foot in the door?

Exactly why. They are counting on the fact that they can hire a fan, who will accept a lesser pay for his dream job.

 

[GeoRox89]

So are we finally going to get this Hockey Canada name drop today just in time for the long weekend?

 

[dahrougem2]

So are we finally going to get this Hockey Canada name drop today just in time for the long weekend?

Clearly the Avs guy works for Hockey Canada and nobody will ever know the names

 

[TruePowerSlave]

So are we finally going to get this Hockey Canada name drop today just in time for the long weekend?

Hockey Canada will do everything to hide the names. They are more than willing to cover these kind of pathetic losers.