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dahrougem2
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He'll be 31 years old. I don't know that it'll be much of a steal at that point if we expect regression due to age.
henchman21
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There will be regression, but I also expect we will have a few contracts above 14m with at least one at 15m. It’s gonna get nutty here soon. 10-11m will be what 7-8m is now.
I should probably rephrase that, 7-8m of a season or two ago.
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No argument here. Unfortunately he ain’t the only culprit.
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If they win tonight their record since the coaching change will be 17-6-0.
Still blaming Davidson eh?
No actually, ownership has a lion’s share here. Where I throw Davidson under the bus along with Jarmo is the Babcock hire.
You constantly slagged the Jax for refusing to blow it up and rebuild properly. You don’t seriously think that was just Jarmo who decided that, do you?
Either way, watch how little changes with the next guy.
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I doubt ownership hired all the old school coaches and pushed for Laine, Provorov, Gudbranson and Gaudreau. We'll have a better idea with the next GM.
Bill Peckerskull
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LOFIN
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He'll be laughing a bitter sweet laugh when the next GM collects the fruits of his labour. That team is well set up for future success.
I don’t think they specified players, no, but they definitely told him to avoid a prolonged rebuild because they can’t afford it.
But even if you just blame Jarmo, look at the guys who came before him. MacLean and Howson also tried the same exact tack. All of them were aggressive, all of them tried to take shortcuts. Howson even purposely avoided the term rebuild and went with “reshaping,” in the wake of the Rick Nash trade, which reportedly caught Nash off-guard because he thought they were blowing it up.
Jarmo has been a miserable failure but he’s also far and away the most successful GM in that franchise’s history. Next guy might be better, but he’ll likely be worse because he won’t likely do the one thing Jarmo does well—draft.
expatriatedtexan
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- Aug 17, 2005
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Do you really feel that way? Fantilli is absolutely a talent you can build around. But who are the rest of the core or prospects that have you hopeful?
All I know is that someone needs to set a vision for what Blue Jackets hockey means. And then they should start building a team that plays that style. The Blue Jackets are my second team, if it's actually possible to have a second team and I've followed them from the beginning, but I'll be damned if I know what their identity is. Under Torts they worked hard, but is that really a team identity? Anyways, it seems to me they've got some good ingredients but no recipe and no chef.
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UncleRisto
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Jiricek, Johnson, and they have a lot of other prospects and young players around. I'm not as high on that pool as I was earlier, but I think they have good pieces to turn things around if they're able to decide what they're doing.
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We're witnessing history here because goalies with numbers like this will never happen again in our lifetime.
Ullmark won the Vezina with 40 wins last year. He'd need to repeat that Vezina season 14 times to reach 551 wins.
To reach 1000 games a goalie has to play 50 games/year for 20 years.
Ullmark won the Vezina with 40 wins last year. He'd need to repeat that Vezina season 14 times to reach 551 wins.
To reach 1000 games a goalie has to play 50 games/year for 20 years.
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Not so sure about that. Jarmo did draft relatively well and there’s possibly a really good core to be had out of Fantilli, Sillinger, Chinakov, etc., but he also saddled the team with some fairly awful contracts.
Whatever the case, he’d better not screw up the next coaching hire as badly as Jarmo screwed up all three of his.
LOFIN
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I mean Gaudreau and Laine have the potential to turn it around. Also if you are saying Tortorella was a screwup, I don't know what to tell you. He actually lifted them to success.
His last two coach hires were awful, and for those alone he should be gone already. Don't really know what the ownership is waiting for here.
Jarmo didn’t hire Torts.
But he does get credit for Larsen, Babcock, and Vincent. So very disappointed in Vincent…I thought he was gonna be good.
- Apr 25, 2006
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He was put in a shit position and I give him the benefit of the doubt.
I find it suspicious that he waited 13 years to have a chance at head coach the NHL and he turned into Michel Therrien on day 1, which happens to be exactly the kind of hard ass coach that Jarmo was looking to hire.
Everything that I've heard says that Vincent was well liked as an assistant coach in the NHL and head coach in the AHL.
So a well liked assistant coach becomes the last minute Babcock replacement and all of a sudden he's trying to be Babcock.
LOFIN
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My bad I thought Torts was already there, it was Todd Richards.
Yes, he gets credit there, everyone else has been a disaster.
UncleRisto
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Predators draft pick, goalie Juha Jatkola (who you might have heard of at the WJC two years ago) scored a goal and an assist yesterday in the Liiga.
Yeah normally I can dismiss Russo’s antics but he just picks fights outta nowhere sometimes. Laz was clearly not even talking about him and he flipped his lid.
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