Being under by 64k with a 20 man roster is a pretty big problem, their AHL team may be in Toronto but half the season is played on the road
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IF the leafs can even buy out Murray (which is a big IF given his history). They are still 2.756M over the cap with a 22 man roster. Even with a 20 man roster they are still 700k+ over the cap.
Trading Jarnkrok seems like the most likely option but even that would leave them with a 20 man roster. :/
You can already see it with Nylander too. If you're sitting there ready to sign a team friendly deal to keep the team competitive, why would you if the best on the team doesn't give a f***? You're basically giving your money to your teammate that doesn't care as much as you do.
Matthews is almost unprecedented in this sense. I can't ever recall a player of his stature so directly and obviously taking a "me first" approach to literally everything he does.
I don't have near enough knowledge of his game to make a proclamation about his future one way or another, but fact remains he's a small goalie, and success for small goalies doesn't directly translate to the NHL. Flame fans are still confused with respect to the reality that AHL results don't equal NHL results. You'd swear Matthew Phillips was the next coming of Crosby based on nothing other than "he leads the AHL in scoring!" as if that is some sort of tell for a star studded NHL career.
There's a reason he was a 7th rounder in the end, and it wasn't anything to do with the results he put out on the ice.
If they run a 20 man roster which they easily can do and have done in the past given their AHL team is in their city, buyout Murray, send Robertson, Knies (who doesn’t require waivers) and Timmins down, they clear the cap by 65k.
Either way I am sure their capologist isn’t some schmuck like us using Cap Friendly and they know what they are doing.
True but they run charters and private planes so it’s no big deal, even if they have to play a man short for a game. Hell, Woodcroft basically plays a 9-6 half the season pretending to play an 11-7.
The biggest issue will be when players aren’t healthy enough to play, but won’t be out long enough to go on IR.
Agree it’s not ideal but that’s when that private Rogers or Bell jet comes in handy just in case.
Ah I see the difference. Robertson was on IR by default. They would have to be able to send him down as well.
So if they can
1) buyout Murray
2) send Robertson down
3) send Timmins down
4) AND send down Knies
They can BARELY squeeze in a 20 man roster. I'm sure they won't suffer a single injury this year.
Agree it’s not ideal and as @Tobias Kahun said the danger is short term injury. But it’s the Leafs and I’m sure Bettman will look the other way when they place someone on IR who doesn’t qualify.
Maybe they trade for someone whose on LTIR this year to artificially increase their cap.
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They'd need to have space before the trade as well, so that's kinda out of the question for them.
I get lost with the off season LTIR but weren’t we over in the off season with Klefbom last year?
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Yep, but then they would need to correct it before the season starts, so it wouldn't matter if they got a LTIR as they would need to count his cap before the season, THEN LTIR him.
Yes I understand that but for cap compliance prior to Game 1 do you need to be below the cap including players on LTIR?
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From Puck Pedia:
Teams that need to use LTIR to be cap compliant on Opening Day, but are over the cap by significantly less than the LTIR player's Cap Hit
As discussed in the LTIR overview, if a team cannot be cap compliant to start the year without being on LTIR, then the LTIR pool (the amount the team can exceed the salary cap) is the amount the team is over the cap. Therefore, if a team is too far over the cap to make roster moves to get under before putting the player on LTIR, but not enough over to be close to the injured player's Cap Hit, the LTIR pool will be quite a bit less than the injured player's cap hit.
Why would a team trade for an LTIR Player? | Puckpedia
In recent weeks, there was a rumor that Tampa Bay was looking to trade with Detroit for Henrik Zetterberg's contract, who is Long Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) eligible. Why would they want an injured player?
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A Statement from Patrice Bergeron | Boston Bruins
When I was around 12 years old a teacher asked everyone in my class to write about our dreams. For me, my dream was already clear: to become a professional hockey player.
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A Statement from Patrice Bergeron | Boston Bruins
When I was around 12 years old a teacher asked everyone in my class to write about our dreams. For me, my dream was already clear: to become a professional hockey player.
Bob Gainey probably contests that title but Bergeron is top 3 with maybe Carbonneau? Certainly PB is the best of his era.
Bruins won’t be the same without him. Wish they won the cup instead of the Knights (if we couldnt win that is lol)
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Who will probably considered the league's best ever defensive forward retires officially.
A Statement from Patrice Bergeron | Boston Bruins
When I was around 12 years old a teacher asked everyone in my class to write about our dreams. For me, my dream was already clear: to become a professional hockey player.
Pure class. A sad day for hockey.
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Lots of people like to complain about the flat cap and lack of compliance buyout, but here we are again with another team(Toronto) that put themselves in this spot.
Why sign Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg to close to 13mil in salary. Teams have no one but themselves to blame when it comes to cap issues.
Why sign Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg to close to 13mil in salary. Teams have no one but themselves to blame when it comes to cap issues.
The Klingberg one is especially puzzling.
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He absolutely was, in spite of being a career Bruin, that's damned impressive.
Who will probably considered the league's best ever defensive forward retires officially.
A Statement from Patrice Bergeron | Boston Bruins
When I was around 12 years old a teacher asked everyone in my class to write about our dreams. For me, my dream was already clear: to become a professional hockey player.
One of the most likeable players that ever played in this league. Nothing but class and appreciation for Bergeron. They should rename the Selke after him at some point. Still love him for helping prevent the stupid canucks from winning a cup (especially piece of shit Kesler)
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Why anybody would sign Klingberg is the most puzzling. For all his offensive D potential he's an iceberg, and Dallas was better to get rid of him.
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