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This is why I wish we just long termed Bratt.

Instead of signing Miles Wood to a one year deal that he very likely either won’t be worth, or that he won’t play enough games to even be worth.

Can’t wait till next year when we sign Blackwood to a $3 million deal after he bounces back with a strong .902% season. I’m very excited to see who gets nickel and dimed over that.
Wait, so now you are in favor of signing Blackwood to an extension? And here I thought you wanted NJ to sign Schneider. I guess they can sign both to long extensions for next season.
 

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This is why I wish we just long termed Bratt.

Instead of signing Miles Wood to a one year deal that he very likely either won’t be worth, or that he won’t play enough games to even be worth.

Can’t wait till next year when we sign Blackwood to a $3 million deal after he bounces back with a strong .902% season. I’m very excited to see who gets nickel and dimed over that.
If he can be 35 games backup who can stop nine shots out of ten on consistent basis(not like ten games of 92,5% and 20 games of sh1tty goaltendin), I’m ok to give him 3 mil one year deal. Only Bratt and Yegor look like a big fishs to sign. I think with Damon, Graves, Tatar and Johnsson we will have enough room to give Blackwood this kind of a deal. Even if Georhiev got something like that in Colorado.
 

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If he can be 35 games backup who can stop nine shots out of ten on consistent basis(not like ten games of 92,5% and 20 games of sh1tty goaltendin), I’m ok to give him 3 mil one year deal. Only Bratt and Yegor look like a big fishs to sign. I think with Damon, Graves, Tatar and Johnsson we will have enough room to give Blackwood this kind of a deal. Even if Georhiev got something like that in Colorado.
He's gotta do better than just 9 out of 10. League average last year was .907% and I think it was either .908% or .909% the year before that (I forgot).

If he can't be at least league average then heave him after the season and look elsewhere.
 
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He's gotta do better than just 9 out of 10. League average last year was .907% and I think it was either .908% or .909% the year before that (I forgot).

If he can't be at least league average then heave him after the season and look elsewhere.
The good news is he will get this season to play his way on or off the team and you can see what you make of his play before deciding if it makes sense to extend him or find a plan B. Hopefully Blackwood rights the ship and it's an easy decision.
 
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He's gotta do better than just 9 out of 10. League average last year was .907% and I think it was either .908% or .909% the year before that (I forgot).

If he can't be at least league average then heave him after the season and look elsewhere.
It really depends how team will play. Our actual style help with HDC overall, but if HDC are going, they are realy HD. I would be ok with consistent 90% backup. Especially with our firepower, which will be only better with the time. But again - consistent 90%. I don't wanna 20 losses because Blackwood sh1t the bad, and after will caught some hot streak in 10 games.
 

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It really depends how team will play. Our actual style help with HDC overall, but if HDC are going, they are realy HD. I would be ok with consistent 90% backup. Especially with our firepower, which will be only better with the time. But again - consistent 90%. I don't wanna 20 losses because Blackwood sh1t the bad, and after will caught some hot streak in 10 games.
I'd like to think a healthy Blackwood can get back to .910 or better with at least some measure of consistency. If he plays 40 games and has 29-31 good starts (3 goals or less per game including overtime and shootouts and a save percentage of at least 90%) that's probably a good season for him.
 

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I'd like to think a healthy Blackwood can get back to .910 or better with at least some measure of consistency. If he plays 40 games and has 29-31 good starts (3 goals or less per game including overtime and shootouts and a save percentage of at least 90%) that's probably a good season for him.
I'd say he has to be at least league average.

If he's league average, re-sign him for ONE more year and no more than that and not more than his qualifying offer. If he's a bit more than league average I could get behind more money, but the term should not be more than one year. It's a bad gamble, unless he has a season like Shesterkin just had.

The one more year will bring him to UFA, but we'll worry about it then. If Bratt didn't get more than a one year deal this offseason after his huge season (which I understand the skepticism of the argument that he'll consistently be that good) then Blackwood can't get more than a one year deal no matter what he does this year. Because the first two years on this deal were so bad that he'll need to replicate his good 22-23 (assuming it is good) in 23-24 in order to get more term and money. They can't just say ''Well, he was good in 18-19 and 19-20 and he's good in 22-23, so we should just sign him for 3 more years again'' it doesn't work that way. He needs more than one good season to put that shit stain of two years behind him. Maybe one year and a hot start to 23-24 would get me believing again, but I'd be skeptical that he's back to good if he's good this year.

Just like I was skeptical he was bad after just the one poor season in 20-21. 21-22 was the real red flag. And 23-24 will be the green flag, assuming he's good in 22-23.
 
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So the other night while on youtube, this video came up on the sidebar. I've never watched any of his videos before this and still haven't watched his others, but I watched this one. I guess youtube knows I watch the hockey guy and they probably have cookies tracking me talking about goalies and my goals against reviews, so this video popped up in the related stuff on the sidebar. He ranks the starting goalies from 32 down to 1.



I really appreciate this. I have a couple mild nitpicks, but generally I agree with him. I wish we could be friends in real life. I LOVE how he has Vejmelka in 32nd. Vejmelka almost seems to get a benefit of the doubt bias because he plays for Arizona and has a small cult-like following that seem to believe he's not as bad as Arizona is.

He's got Ancient Andy at 31st. I actually might put him behind Vejmelka, but only because he's old and badly washed up. Vejmelka might be a better goalie than him in 2022, but certainly Anderson's career will be much better. Then he has MraSUCK at 30, Adin Hill at 29th and has Blackwood at 28th.

He does seem a little bit higher on Anton Forsberg than he probably should be. He has him at 19th. He seems a little lower on Jeremy Swayman than he should be and has him 23rd. I'd at least swap those two. Forsberg turns 30 in November and last year was I think his first full time year in the NHL. He's spent much of his career back and forth to the minors and getting waived.

If this dude likes beer I would certainly take him out for one and if not then I'd take him for a milkshake. He doesn't seem to mind going off about how overrated some of these guys are. He doesn't have guys up in the top because of how good they were 3 or 5 years ago. Very impressed with this.

Oh and by the way, thumbnail has Shesterkin at #3, as well as Fleury at #16 and Kahkoken at 28th. He actually has Shesterkin at #2, Fleury at #13 and Kahkonen at 26th.
 

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I'd say he has to be at least league average.

If he's league average, re-sign him for ONE more year and no more than that and not more than his qualifying offer. If he's a bit more than league average I could get behind more money, but the term should not be more than one year. It's a bad gamble, unless he has a season like Shesterkin just had.

The one more year will bring him to UFA, but we'll worry about it then. If Bratt didn't get more than a one year deal this offseason after his huge season (which I understand the skepticism of the argument that he'll consistently be that good) then Blackwood can't get more than a one year deal no matter what he does this year. Because the first two years on this deal were so bad that he'll need to replicate his good 22-23 (assuming it is good) in 23-24 in order to get more term and money. They can't just say ''Well, he was good in 18-19 and 19-20 and he's good in 22-23, so we should just sign him for 3 more years again'' it doesn't work that way. He needs more than one good season to put that shit stain of two years behind him. Maybe one year and a hot start to 23-24 would get me believing again, but I'd be skeptical that he's back to good if he's good this year.

Just like I was skeptical he was bad after just the one poor season in 20-21. 21-22 was the real red flag. And 23-24 will be the green flag, assuming he's good in 22-23.

red flag....green flag.....no black flag.

if when the time comes you want him gone....i give you greg ginn's old side project

 

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yep

He lost me after Black Flag. I haven't listened to any of his non-Black Flag stuff, nor the fake reformed Black Flag of the last couple of decades. I will die without listening to that ''Black Flag'' release they put out 10 years ago. I've heard it was very bad and just a mockery. I'll refrain from ever stumbling upon it.

He's also by all means a pretty big scumbag. I've never met him, but everyone I know who has either met him or has close friends who know him have all said he's a dick. And SST has been known to screw bands by not paying royalties, which everyone has known about for 35-40 years. I'd have to think Ultramega OK went gold after Soundgarden blew up and people started buying their pre-breakthrough catalog.

There was also some pretty bad stuff that came out not too many years ago about him and abusing his kids.
 

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He lost me after Black Flag. I haven't listened to any of his non-Black Flag stuff, nor the fake reformed Black Flag of the last couple of decades. I will die without listening to that ''Black Flag'' release they put out 10 years ago. I've heard it was very bad and just a mockery. I'll refrain from ever stumbling upon it.

He's also by all means a pretty big scumbag. I've never met him, but everyone I know who has either met him or has close friends who know him have all said he's a dick. And SST has been known to screw bands by not paying royalties, which everyone has known about for 35-40 years. I'd have to think Ultramega OK went gold after Soundgarden blew up and people started buying their pre-breakthrough catalog.

There was also some pretty bad stuff that came out not too many years ago about him and abusing his kids.

ya, i read shit about him.....some people :facepalm:
 

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Anddd we are off to a great start in Philly :laugh:

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Anddd we are off to a great start in Philly :laugh:

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This really has potential to be tied for Torts shortest head coaching tenure in the league (not including that interim stint with the Rangers all the way back in 2000 to end the season) with Vancouver, which was only one season.

I don't know how hot of a seat Fletcher is sitting on, but I think Fletcher could really be blasted after this year, possibly along with Torts or maybe the new GM gives Torts another try because it's Torts and he's a proven head in the league (not to mention will still be on the hook for FOUR more years under contract), but I think it could be a one-off for Torts if not.

Not that I think it's his fault, but their roster is so incredibly bad and Fletcher has done such a hideous job there. They shouldn't have fired Hextall when they did.

Maybe Fletcher isn't on the hot seat yet, but you'd think he would be.
 

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Anddd we are off to a great start in Philly :laugh:

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A not-uncommon refrain I hear is that Torts will make the Flyers something that isn't complete shit (none of them say that they'll be outside of the bottom of the Metro, though). I don't buy that, not with statements like this. At least they'll be an entertaining wreck.
 

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Lou must be rolling over in his grave at all these massive contracts for young players with several years left of team control.
 
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