Arzak
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Speaking of bad contracts, the Huberdeau extension kicks in next season
Huberdeau got Marnes RFA money as UFA while having better numbers..
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Huberdeau got Marnes RFA money as UFA while having better numbers..
TheBeastCoast
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Also a train wreck defensively. He was allowed to free wheel and cheat for offense in Florida and he produced. Asked to produce and play defense in Calgary? His numbers are tanking. Marner does it on both sides of the puck consistently. Marner is the clear better player.
Huberdeau is a worse producer, worse at generating offense and driving play, worse defensively, a worse PKer, and he's signed through significant decline years until he's 38.
Huberdeau last season, in a career year, had almost half as many points in empty net/3v3 OT situations as he did 5v5 points.
Most GMs could recognize the mirage.
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Marner by the end of his ELC had a 0.929 PPG. Huberdeau for his career has a 0.909 PPG. He had a great season last year but Marner had better production by age 21 than Huberdeau has averaged for his career.
I would much rather have Marner's RFA contract.
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Flames gambled on both their new forwards, Kadri and Huberdeau to keep being close to their best for those prices over multiple years and ages. Both coming off career years, although Huberdeau is 3 years younger.
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I feel like that'd be tremendous for us considering Samsonov played in more games last season alone than Skinner has thus far at the NHL level in total.
Buds17
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That's a possibility. Mind you, they essentially also have to mitigate the risk of the contract becoming even bigger than that if Skinner eventually runs away with the starter's role.
You do pay more for UFA years so I get what the poster was trying to say about the money, the problem is that Marner is in a different tier than Huberdeau and always has been. So a comp for salary doesn't really work.
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It's a good contract, Skinner is a solid goalie
Too bad they're paying their backup 5 million
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They have a ton of young talent coming up and a few key injuries. Doesnt help that their goaltending has been complete trash either.
They will be fine, and Gaudreau will be playing on good teams that will win, but a lot has gone wrong for CBJ this year. At least it is good timing. They won't scoff at adding Michkov, Bedard, Fantilli, or anyone else at the top of that draft to go with Johnson, Jiricek, Mateychuk, Sillinger, etc.
To me he still looks like he is the fourth Jonas brother than a star hockey player.
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Florida taking a bet on another semi-skilled grit guy to turn into something.
I agree that comparing ufas and rfas is not a good idea.
Curious though, would you be able to post the stats that show Huberdeau is worse at generating offense, driving play etc.
I'd love to see where Marner stands relative to Huberdeau and other top players. And also see what stats are being used to make these conclusions.
It's difficult to compare players on one team vs a player on a different team. Huberdeau began his career on a lowly team. The Florida roster was as literally as bad as it gets... Their best players were Fleischmann and Tomas Kopecky. Huberdeau was second in panthers scoring as a rookie, with 38 points in 48 games. the 3rd best player Tomas Kopecky has 27 points. In his second season the top Florida players had less than 38 points over a full season and the best players were Brad Boyes and Scottie Upshall.
These two situations are not even remotely comparable.
TheBeastCoast
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I mean Marner joined a Leafs team that finished last the year before. He didn't jump into a top team. He happens to be a pretty big part of the reason we climbed out of that actually! Like immediately after entering the league.
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Stephen
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I'd say the start of Huberdeau's career was fairly similar to Marner's start in Toronto.
Marner was... But so was Matthews, Nylander and veterans 28 year old JVR and 27 year old Kadri and 30 year old Bozak and young defenders gardiner and Reilly. Overall the leafs roster had players who had respectable careers and for the most part on their primes.
Have you even looked at Floridas roster in Huberdeau's first couple of years? A bunch of guys on the verge of retirement, career 3rd, and 4th liners (not even good ones) who never amounted to anything in their careers. upshall, bjustad, goc, j.hayes, gilbert, mattias, winchester......
The leafs had seven players with more than 40 points and 4 with more than 60 points. Florida didnt have one olayer break 38 points.
Florida had Horachek as a coach... whose a running joke around here. Florida was also playing in front of the absolute worst crowds.
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Sick of this shit. Every God forsaken year there’s always one Atlantic team that has to be balls to the walls fantastic to make sure we can’t get the first spot. Last year it was Florida who has now decided to shit the bed this year, God forbid they collapsed last season. Now Boston has their “renaissance” season and if they miraculously falter next year some 
up and coming team like Buffalo or Detroit or Montreal or Ottawa will somehow figure it out and run away with first. Hell maybe it’ll be Tampa. Anyone but Toronto. f***s sake.
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