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Tampa's loss was the 8th biggest shot difference between teams in a game this season.....out of all the game played by all teams all year.


Good job crapping on your best players that had actually been playing well during the skid Cooper. Hope you keep it up.
 
Zybalto said:
Tampa's loss was the 8th biggest shot difference between teams in a game this season.....out of all the game played by all teams all year.


Good job crapping on your best players that had actually been playing well during the skid Cooper. Hope you keep it up.
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Their biggest is Hedman.

Would be interesting to see what they do from now on. As they always have a bad spell and then picks it up right before the playoffs.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
Their biggest is Hedman.

Would be interesting to see what they do from now on. As they always have a bad spell and then picks it up right before the playoffs.
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I dunno.

2 years ago:
Shots Against: 9th best
xGA: 5th best

Last year:
Shots Against: 7th best
xGA: 9th best

This season:
Shots Against: 20th best
xGA: 20th best


The perennial top 10 D they have had has vanished and with awful depth and no Hedman, can they turn it around?
 
Zybalto said:
I dunno.

2 years ago:
Shots Against: 9th best
xGA: 5th best

Last year:
Shots Against: 7th best
xGA: 9th best

This season:
Shots Against: 20th best
xGA: 20th best


The perennial top 10 D they have had has vanished and with awful depth and no Hedman, can they turn it around?
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Hedman is still Hedman esp when it is in the clutch moment. And that’s what it matters most. Kind of like how Quick used to be like in his prime.
Personally, I don’t think TB can be any good without Hedman but they still got Vas.
 
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thusk said:
You more worried about leafs than a team who allowed 3.4 goal by game against non-trash team with the best goalie of the league?


If hedman is done, i cant see how tampa can beat toronto
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Ohhhhh I certainly can. In fact, I would fully expect Tampa to beat us.

Never EVER underestimate this teams ability of disappointing their fan base.
 
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I want the team to always be the underdog of the series bc the core still is not mature to take advantage of situations
 
mikeyz said:
Ohhhhh I certainly can. In fact, I would fully expect Tampa to beat us.

Never EVER underestimate this teams ability of disappointing their fan base.
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BertCorbeau said:
Especially when Tampa still has Vasi
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I understand your point but a goalie will be as good than the team in front... if your team just completly trash, its will be hard even for vasilevskiy... Tampa all year long had been trash against good east team

Tampa 27 game against east team who still alive for playoff push ( toronto, boston, carolina NYR, NYI, new jersey, pittsburgh, washington, buffalo, ottawa, detroit, florida)

8 regular win
3 ot win
13 regular lost
3 ot loss

GF 3.04 goal/game
GA 3.85 goal/game (104 in 27 )

Remove hedman...
 
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thusk said:
I understand your point but a goalie will be as good than the team in front... if your team just completly trash, its will be hard even for vasilevskiy... Tampa all year long had been trash against good east team

Tampa 27 game against east team who still alive for playoff push ( toronto, boston, carolina NYR, NYI, new jersey, pittsburgh, washington, buffalo, ottawa, detroit, florida)

8 regular win
3 ot win
13 regular lost
3 ot loss

GF 3.04 goal/game
GA 3.85 goal/game (104 in 27 )

Remove hedman...
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Tampa last year against eastern playoff teams:

9-11-3

They sucked last year as well
 
thusk said:
Did they allowed close of 4 goal/game and maybe lost their #1 dmen?

Its not just the favt they lost game, its how they lost it you are really concerning
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They gave up 80 goals in those 23 games for an average of 3.48 goals against/game

The loss of McDonagh is huge, but it's tough to count these guys out until they actually lose. They've earned the benefit of the doubt
 
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leafsfan5 said:
They gave up 80 goals in those 23 games for an average of 3.48 goals against/game

The loss of McDonagh is huge, but it's tough to count these guys out until they actually lose. They've earned the benefit of the doubt
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Agreed. Tampa has dropped on its roster a lot since last playoffs

Palat. Mcdonagh Rutta (he had chem with hedman) is a huge loss

But you never know they could just be playing possum and ramp up with 5-10 games left
 
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leafsfan5 said:
They gave up 80 goals in those 23 games for an average of 3.48 goals against/game

The loss of McDonagh is huge, but it's tough to count these guys out until they actually lose. They've earned the benefit of the doubt
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I know you cant count anybody out until its done...

Yes mcdonaugh lost is really huge and been underrating...but imagine tampa losing hedman too for at least rest of regular season...

Starting with the guy who played in tampa 3rd pair last season in their 1st pair

For a team who had succes last 3 post season because of their defensive game and how good they was defensivly and how good they was to move out the puck of their own zone, and keep puck out of their own zone... starting playoff without their 2 best D defensive side and 2 of his 3 best d to move the puck out of their own zone... thats where its concerning,
 
I know that the Leafs are chokers, they lost to an inferior Habs team and as such we are not allowed to expect a win against any team. A 10 year old house league girls team would beat leafs in the playoffs.

I hope I covered all the bases.

That said, Tampa is 2-5-3 in their last 10. That is quite bad. And their play seems to be getting worse by the game. I really hope they continue that slide until the playoffs.
 
thusk said:
I know you cant count anybody out until its done...

Yes mcdonaugh lost is really huge and been underrating...but imagine tampa losing hedman too for at least rest of regular season...

Starting with the guy who played in tampa 3rd pair last season in their 1st pair

For a team who had succes last 3 post season because of their defensive game and how good they was defensivly and how good they was to move out the puck of their own zone, and keep puck out of their own zone... starting playoff without their 2 best D defensive side and 2 of his 3 best d to move the puck out of their own zone... thats where its concerning,
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Honestly, for TB it might be better if Hedman is injured right now (as long as it's not serious and doesn't linger during playoffs). He's been legitimately bad and a liability in his own end for the entire year. An injury might give him the chance to rest and reset right before the playoffs.

I do agree the composition of their defensive core is concerning right now, especially with the aforementioned struggles of Hedman. I don't care what Sergachev's numbers say, he isn't the top pair guy you want on your team logging heavy minutes in the playoffs. He will make big mistakes that teams will capitalize on. TB badly needs Hedman to get back to his normal level or Vasi to go God mode in order to have sustained success in the playoffs. Unfortunately for us, Vasi God mode is very much possible, and Florida saw that last year

They also have a great system that can be relied on in the playoffs, but it's a good question of just how much that system relied on the shutdown pair of McDonagh - Cernak
 
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leafsfan5 said:
Honestly, for TB it might be better if Hedman is injured right now (as long as it's not serious and doesn't linger during playoffs). He's been legitimately bad and a liability in his own end for the entire year. An injury might give him the chance to rest and reset right before the playoffs

I do agree the composition of their defensive core is concerning right now, especially with the aforementioned struggles of Hedman. I don't care what Sergachev's numbers say, he isn't the top pair guy you want on your team logging heavy minutes in the playoffs. He will make big mistakes that teams will capitalize on. TB badly needs Hedman to get back to his normal level or Vasi to go God mode and in order to have sustained success in the playoffs. Unfortunately for us, Vasi God mode is very much possible, and Florida saw that last year

They also have a great system that can be relied on in the playoffs, but it's a good question of just how much that system relied on the shutdown pair of McDonagh - Cernak
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And why hedman had a pretty bad season? whats different this seqson? The mcdonaugh effect...Mcdonaugh left and its hedman who had to take mcdonaugh responsabilities and hes struggle in that role...

last year florida had been outplayed in both series they played, the only reason they beat washington is vanacek/ samsonov you didnt get the job done...
 
willmma said:
That said, Tampa is 2-5-3 in their last 10. That is quite bad. And their play seems to be getting worse by the game. I really hope they continue that slide until the playoffs.
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If that happens we may not be playing them anymore lol
 
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Tavares in a grey sweater at practice.

What does that mean? I can't remember all the sweater colours and meaning
 
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