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TheTotalPackage said:
Paul Maurice is the Pete DeBoer of the East.

Always getting jobs and with no clue as to why,
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tbh pete deboer is not a bad coach. he has coached two different teams to the SCF and has made the final four couple of times.

paul maurice on the other hand is mediocre coach.
 
I was worried the Panthers would hire a good coach this offseason and thus improve come playoff time

Glad to know that's not something to be concerned about anymore!
 
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leafsfan5 said:
I was worried the Panthers would hire a good coach this offseason and thus improve come playoff time

Glad to know that's not something to be concerned about anymore!
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A one lucky run to Stanly Cup gets you a life time of contracts it seems

Really not sure what he has done to deserve a coaching role. I guess being well spoken and likeable is a thing after all
 
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ToneDog said:
Yup the same guys who went all in by trading a 1st and 2 4ths for a broken down, Nick Foligo and then signed IFAs Ritchie and Mrazek is much smarter. LOL. Panthers > Leafs in regular season. Panthers > Leafs in playoffs. Yup Leafs management is much smarter. So much smarter they are going to triple and quadrouple down on this lot that has 6 first round playoff loses in a row.

With 775 career wins to his name, Maurice has the pedigree and experience that the Panthers were likely looking for as a more long-term Quenneville replacement.

Wake me us when Keefe gets his 775th win in the NHL.
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Would you be happy if they fired Keefe and brought in Maurice?
 
BertCorbeau said:
Would you be happy if they fired Keefe and brought in Maurice?
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I'd have to interview him and see what his thoughts were but Trotz and Cassidy were out there so he would not have been my first choice. The guy has won 775 NHL games. I doubt he is as bad as some posters say he is. We'll get to experience it first hand because it will be the same 3 team race in the Atlantic.
 
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ToneDog said:
I'd have to interview him and see what his thoughts were but Trotz and Cassidy were out there so he would not have been my first choice. The guy has won 775 NHL games. I doubt he is as bad as some posters say he is. We'll get to experience it first hand because it will be the same 3 team race in the Atlantic.
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Maurice would have been the last guy I would have interview for any coaching jobs
He only gets benefit of the doubt because of that one flukey run back in 2003.

Helley in Winterpeg has made him look better than who he is. He's one of those coaches comes of very well spoken, says the right stuff but loses the locker room rather quickly
 
fahad203 said:
Maurice would have been the last guy I would have interview for any coaching jobs
He only gets benefit of the doubt because of that one flukey run back in 2003.

Helley in Winterpeg has made him look better than who he is. He's one of those coaches comes of very well spoken, says the right stuff but loses the locker room rather quickly
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Let's see how he does in Florida. They went all in only to see him get schooled and admit he learned a few things. Too bad for him Florida is not willing to risk it and let him keep learning on the job. Too bad for Florida they handed the reigns to a rookie when Q quit.
 
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Dekes For Days said:
Crosby had not won a cup when he signed his 17.30% x 5 year contract.
Malkin had not won a cup when he signed his 15.34% x 5 year contract.
Kopitar had not won a cup when he signed his 12.00% x 7 year contract.
Toews had not won a cup when he signed his 11.09% x 5 year contract.
Kane had not won a cup when he signed his 11.09% x 5 year contract.
Doughty had not won a cup when he signed his 10.89% x 8 year contract.

Those are big contracts. Some of them even bigger than Matthews/Marner.
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Crosby won a cup the first year of his biggest contract when he was 17% of the team cap, but Malkin was still on a elc and only 2.5%. After that year they didn't win a cup again until Crosbys 3rd contract where he lowered to 14.55% of the cap , but they didn't win the cup until the cap went up and his percentage was around 12%. Everyone else is similar on the list, nobody won a cup when when their contracts counted more than 12% against the cap and generally their hits were lower when they won cups because the cap was moving with exception to the one year it went down.


Point is the leafs have three players over 13% and the cap is staying flat. Leafs have to do something that others have not done since the cap was implemented (according to my quick research)
 
Antropovsky said:
What are the cap hits of those players in the year of their cup wins?

The next stat I'd like to look at is how many final appearances and series wins before they went above 11%.

Where are you getting your cap%? I looked at puckpedia and they say Toews and Kane were below 11% on their second contracts. Kane for instance says 10.61%.
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Dekes will use the cap ceiling of the year a contract is signed rather than the year it kicks in for some reason
 
BertCorbeau said:
Makar with a well earned Norris, he's unreal .. But what a big snub for Josi who put up 10 more points (96!) on a much worse team.

Imagine getting 96 points as a d-man and not winning the Norris.
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Ya its crazy, if we are talking pure offense (like the Norris seems to rate higher) then Josi had to win. Way more points on a way worse team. I'm a big Makar fan but he will be collecting a few more down the road likely so didn't need to gift him 1 this year
 
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Gallagbi said:
I do think cap% in their first year of the deal is smarter and more consistent, especially when a lot of signings can happen with a known cap projection.
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Post-ELC contracts signed on a known future cap projection are actually extremely rare. Matthews was one of the few, and the cap fell well short of the projection. Contracts tend to correlate best with signing date. There are both risks and benefits to signing early.
 
ToneDog said:
Panthers go all in, win a round, coach is schooled in the playoffs and held accountable and replaced. Here they would have given him another 3 kicks at the can.
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Are you SERIOUSLY trying to argue that hiring Paul Maurice for the sake of "making changes" is somehow an improvement? Making changes so you can say "See, changes were made!" is NOT an improvement on anything, you know...

And now I'm hearing that Maurice is trying to push Florida to get Schiefle and Wheeler...
 
Lightsol said:
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to argue that hiring Paul Maurice for the sake of "making changes" is somehow an improvement? Making changes so you can say "See, changes were made!" is NOT an improvement on anything, you know...

And now I'm hearing that Maurice is trying to push Florida to get Schiefle and Wheeler...
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Florida is not making a change for the sake of change. Brunette shit the bed in the playoffs and said that he had lots to learn. As such, they made a move. Whether Maurice is the right guy, time will tell. Keefe has lost 3 series in a row and has been outcoached in all 3, yet Leafs stand pat.

The way I see it, if Trotz and Cassidy are out there and are better than Keefe, you should look into making the change. If anything it also allows you to run most of it back with a fresh set of eyes.

I mean some here give Trotz all the credit for the Isles playoff success and none to Lou. Well Trotz is out there folks and Dubas is not interested.
 
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ToneDog said:
Brunette shit the bed in the playoffs
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And yet, Florida's "shitting the bed" seems to be the result guys like you are pushing for, since Florida won a round, which makes them "better" than the Leafs, doesn't it? And no, I don't agree with the whole "shitting the bed" analysis to begin with. Because that would mean Tampa "shat the bed" against Columbus before their current run, but didn't fire anybody.
 
ToneDog said:
Florida is not making a change for the sake of change. Brunette shit the bed in the playoffs and said that he had lots to learn. As such, they made a move. Whether Maurice is the right guy, time will tell. Keefe has lost 3 series in a row and has been outcoached in all 3, yet Leafs stand pat.

The way I see it, if Trotz and Cassidy are out there and are better than Keefe, you should look into making the change. If anything it also allows you to run most of it back with a fresh set of eyes.

I mean some here give Trotz all the credit for the Isles playoff success and none to Lou. Well Trotz is out there folks and Dubas is not interested.
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Or Trotz isn’t interested
 
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