Around the League 2020-21 Part 3, Trade Deadline Edition

[BigKing]

Because everyone saw it coming and he was a repeat offender--see?

Sure. Just like I'd be fine if this firestorm regarding Wilson was for his calling card headshot and not a "whatever" type of incident.

FWIW lot of enforcers seem to be coming out against Wilson's actions, too. I mean take it with a grain of salt for obvious reasons but man, John Scott went off, Laraque, etc.

I dunno man maybe I'm naive.

Grain of salt for sure because, you know, it's easy to join the mob and get some play plus older players always drop the "more respect in my day" thing. Of course, John Scott tried to fight Kessel in a pre-season game so not exactly a gentleman himself.

Dustin Brown would have a lot more respect league wide if he stood up to the consequences of his hits instead of avoiding them. His reputation was/is as a borderline dirty hitter who turtles from the reaction. He was coming in right after an era of really tough, hard hitting skilled power forwards who would always stand up for themselves and teammates when challenged. Brown never did that, he would skate away with that Urkle "did I do that" look on his face.

If he did drop them he would have been feared and respected. Instead he would do something vicious and go and hide. Players that took the kind of liberties he did used to have to take the receipt for their actions. Fans hated him for it. Brown was very much a part of the sea change from the old school NHL to the newer, nicer, league that forced the DoPS to step in.

Hell, I still don't respect him. Drives me crazy when people mention him and Dave Taylor in the same sentence.

I'd hate Dustin Brown if he wasn't a King and it always bummed me out that he would nearly always run away. Kirk Maltby is maybe my least favorite player of all time and it was because he would hit, hide behind his visor and keep his gloves cemented on. Lapperriere was a guy that was kind of hit-and-run and a spot picker. It finally clicked for him and he changed his game and is now thought of as one of the last real warrior types.

Brown to me has always been a reckless hitter moreso than intentionally dirty.

This is exactly what I'm talking about and it isn't an insult to you. Brown is a reckless hitter on HF Kings. Well, so is Wilson on HF Caps but both of these guys are intentionally dirty everywhere else.

 

[King'sPawn]

Sure. Just like I'd be fine if this firestorm regarding Wilson was for his calling card headshot and not a "whatever" type of incident.



Grain of salt for sure because, you know, it's easy to join the mob and get some play plus older players always drop the "more respect in my day" thing. Of course, John Scott tried to fight Kessel in a pre-season game so not exactly a gentleman himself.



I'd hate Dustin Brown if he wasn't a King and it always bummed me out that he would nearly always run away. Kirk Maltby is maybe my least favorite player of all time and it was because he would hit, hide behind his visor and keep his gloves cemented on. Lapperriere was a guy that was kind of hit-and-run and a spot picker. It finally clicked for him and he changed his game and is now thought of as one of the last real warrior types.



This is exactly what I'm talking about and it isn't an insult to you. Brown is a reckless hitter on HF Kings. Well, so is Wilson on HF Caps but both of these guys are intentionally dirty everywhere else.

If/when Brown pulled the shit Wilson did again, I'd expect a suspension. Happy?

 

[Bandit]

Tha f*ck you think I just replied to your post without clicking on it?

I'm just going to assume post-177704143 is not able to be read from my account though.

Well I don't know, it's a link to one of my posts and clearly you can see my posts in this thread so...

 

[Bandit]

I've never seen Brown flexing like a lunatic in the box after one of his hits.

 

[tny760]

Grain of salt for sure because, you know, it's easy to join the mob and get some play plus older players always drop the "more respect in my day" thing. Of course, John Scott tried to fight Kessel in a pre-season game so not exactly a gentleman himself.

to be fair though, scott not only told carlyle he was gonna jump the next guy he sent out, he warned kessel beforehand

 

[Steve Zissou]

I've never seen Brown flexing like a lunatic in the box after one of his hits.

Some players flex w/ their muscles, others flex.......

 

[Jason Squirties]

Well I don't know, it's a link to one of my posts and clearly you can see my posts in this thread so...

Weird, glitch in the matrix but I see some posts missing on that page and it just takes me to the top of the page so maybe that's why it's throwing off the link. Is this why we we're supposed to not block the pop-ups on this site moderators SMDH?

 

[kovacro]

Rangers just shit canned Davidson and Gorton.

Rangers fire president John Davidson, general manager Jeff Gorton

 

[SufferingSelfCreated]

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[Ziggy Stardust]

Rangers just shit canned Davidson and Gorton.

Rangers fire president John Davidson, general manager Jeff Gorton

This is what happens when you work for a control freak like James Dolan.

 

[YP44]

Davidson will be out of work for as long as he wants. Guy is amazing.

 

[kovacro]

This is what happens when you work for a control freak like James Dolan.

Seems so..

 

[lumbergh]

Seems so..

Rangers just shit canned Davidson and Gorton.

Rangers fire president John Davidson, general manager Jeff Gorton

WTF? That's some kinda dumb.

 

[lumbergh]

I just went over to the Rangers board to see what the reaction was. Pretty much every other post starts with the word "What".

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Fire Blake and Luc, Bring me Davidson and Gorton

 

[KingsFan7824]

Also. this background to the NHL debut in net last night for 28 year old MIchael Houser

Very cool, what a moment for him, something he'll never forget.


Houser won again last night, leading the Sabres to a come from behind win vs the Islanders .

 

[Bandit]

Seems so..

There is no way you keep the coach if this is true. Whether they were for it and ownership wasn't, or vice-versa who knows, but it 100% had to do with the tweet.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Fire Blake and Luc, Bring me Davidson and Gorton

Now move LA to NY.

 

[BigKing]

If/when Brown pulled the shit Wilson did again, I'd expect a suspension. Happy?

Depends on what Brown did. If it was what just happened with Wilson, I'd hope that you would argue against a suspension but I respect your opinion regardless.

I've been on HF Kings for a real long time now. I was on LGK prior to starting here as well as, what was it, Gann's site? Online Round Table? Over time, you get a pretty good feel for poster's thoughts on the game, what is good for it, what is bad for it etc. So with that said, I was somewhat surprised after seeing the incident to come on here and see a lot of the same overreaction--in my mind-- to said incident seeing as the majority of posters on here would, in my opinion, support no suspension if a Kings player did this.

That's fine though because it seems more of not being able to--or wanting to--separate the incident from the player involved. I'm not carrying a torch for Tom Wilson but I am deeply concerned about where the NHL product is heading; how this is being handled--in my opinion--helps to further hasten the demise of the sport/league/team that I've invested so much time and money in to. To me, this incident isn't a Tom Wilson thing but it is another Trojan Horse for the "get rid of violence in hockey" crowd, just like when an enforcer cracks their head on the ice during a fight and the crusade machine starts up to ban fighting.

You and others might want to say "they should get rid of violence in hockey" but, unfortunately, violence is part of what separates this sport from others. There is an allowable level of violence but there is a loud contingent that wants to continue to set a new standard for what is considered too much: they will try to take it to a point where the product will barely recognizable.

 

[tny760]

this shit's better than any movie in years.. who would've thought tom wilson could remove a president and GM

 

[kingsboy11]

Wow that's insane

 

[Martyros]

why wouldn't you wait the 3 or so games left ,like a normal human being, to make changes within the front office? You decide to fire them right after that tweet which they probably had nothing to do with?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

This is what they get for trading Brendan Lemieux.

 

[Martyros]

Does Tom Wilson get suspended for the firing?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Depends on what Brown did. If it was what just happened with Wilson, I'd hope that you would argue against a suspension but I respect your opinion regardless.

I've been on HF Kings for a real long time now. I was on LGK prior to starting here as well as, what was it, Gann's site? Online Round Table? Over time, you get a pretty good feel for poster's thoughts on the game, what is good for it, what is bad for it etc. So with that said, I was somewhat surprised after seeing the incident to come on here and see a lot of the same overreaction--in my mind-- to said incident seeing as the majority of posters on here would, in my opinion, support no suspension if a Kings player did this.

That's fine though because it seems more of not being able to--or wanting to--separate the incident from the player involved. I'm not carrying a torch for Tom Wilson but I am deeply concerned about where the NHL product is heading; how this is being handled--in my opinion--helps to further hasten the demise of the sport/league/team that I've invested so much time and money in to. To me, this incident isn't a Tom Wilson thing but it is another Trojan Horse for the "get rid of violence in hockey" crowd, just like when an enforcer cracks their head on the ice during a fight and the crusade machine starts up to ban fighting.

You and others might want to say "they should get rid of violence in hockey" but, unfortunately, violence is part of what separates this sport from others. There is an allowable level of violence but there is a loud contingent that wants to continue to set a new standard for what is considered too much: they will try to take it to a point where the product will barely recognizable.

I think I'm also looking through a slightly different lens.

Look at it this way--I think most of the outrage from me is less about Wilson himself and more about inconsistencies with everyone else/the DoPS. I can't speak for anyone else but I suspect others feel the same way. We're in a different conference so I can't imagine many here have that strong of personal feelings about the player in general.

Like I sure don't want him banned or even suspended for a long time, but I sure think he needs more than a fine.

I see where you're going though and there might be an OVERfocus on Wilson here but even if that's the case elsewhere, I'm just taking it as a flashpoint of the issues with player safety rather than a referendum on Wilson alone.

I can also say my triggers are spears, slew foots, and suckerpunches...but anything on a 'from behind' facing away, downed, or otherwise engaged opponent infuriates me too. That's what got me here. It's a sucker-half-punch from behind to a dude that's face down on the ice expecting nothing.