Around the League 2020-21 part 2 *Insert funny thread title here* edition

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$92m will do far more for Karlsson than any Cup victory could ever do. However, you also have to always remember you're in a hard cap league if you care about winning. Only a very few can have both.

Also have to keep in mind that the players didn't want the cap. You used to be able to trade the high price guy who didn't want to be part of a rebuild.

If the next CBA does away with the guaranteed aspects of an 8-year contract, maybe players will be less enthusiastic about signing them. Then the owners and players will have to come up with realistic terms on the length of contracts and their annual salaries.

The hard cap stays.
 
Maybe there is some wiggle room around cutting a year off the max contract length and letting players reach UFA status one year sooner.
 
If the next CBA does away with the guaranteed aspects of an 8-year contract, maybe players will be less enthusiastic about signing them. Then the owners and players will have to come up with realistic terms on the length of contracts and their annual salaries.

The hard cap stays.

I was hoping for something like the NFL system where not all the money on a long term deal was guaranteed money, or like the NBA with team/ player options to renew after a few seasons.
 
I was hoping for something like the NFL system where not all the money on a long term deal was guaranteed money, or like the NBA with team/ player options to renew after a few seasons.
I want nothing to do with the NBA model and super teams. The NFL model may work.
 
I want nothing to do with the NBA model and super teams. The NFL model may work.

I don't think you can ever have that in Hockey with any kind of cap. In the NBA two guys are a huge % of your roster. Takes more players in Hockey. Closest was the Red Wings pre-cap when they just kept bringing in hall of famers.
 
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I don't think you'll ever see option contracts again and though K17 and I very much agree on non-guaranteed contracts I'm about 99.5% sure that'll never happen.

Agree that there may be more wiggle room around UFA sooner in exchange for something else pretty big, but despite all evidence to the contrary as it plays out, the owner's side never seems very determined to save GMs from themselves.

And yeah NHL is MUCH closer in team structure to the NFL than the NBA.
 
I don't think you'll ever see option contracts again and though K17 and I very much agree on non-guaranteed contracts I'm about 99.5% sure that'll never happen.

Agree that there may be more wiggle room around UFA sooner in exchange for something else pretty big, but despite all evidence to the contrary as it plays out, the owner's side never seems very determined to save GMs from themselves.

And yeah NHL is MUCH closer in team structure to the NFL than the NBA.

Nor should they have but get that as soon as one GM is an idiot it sets the market.
 
NHL should just keep the current model. Leave it alone for a while, they keep changing shit.

If a team signs a bad deal then they should have to feel the repercussions from it, likewise if they get a guy locked in at a bargain.
i agree in principle but i also feel like it's always the next GM that gets hamstrung by the bad contracts, while the guy who signed it walks free at his next job. the GMs always gonna hand out the max contract cause he's unlikely to have to deal with the repurcussions if it goes south and making the signing is good for his job too

i don't like the idea of non-guaranteed contracts but i think a 5 or 6yr max might make for more trades of guys in their primes. i do sometimes feel like NHL teams suffer from a bit of stagnancy, although i'm not huge on the NBA/MLB format of trading for superteams every year either. has to be some kind of balance there
 
The old "tumbleweed" the memes on that were amazing after he pulled that.

Regarding hockey, whenever I hear tumbleweed, I think of this:

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I don't think you'll ever see option contracts again and though K17 and I very much agree on non-guaranteed contracts I'm about 99.5% sure that'll never happen.

Agree that there may be more wiggle room around UFA sooner in exchange for something else pretty big, but despite all evidence to the contrary as it plays out, the owner's side never seems very determined to save GMs from themselves.

And yeah NHL is MUCH closer in team structure to the NFL than the NBA.

If I’m a player, guarantee’d contracts are the hill I die on. Can you imagine being Scott Walker if he couldn’t return this year? Years in the minors, finally gets his chance, face broke, good luck in your next life.
 
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If I’m a player, guarantee’d contracts are the hill I die on. Can you imagine being Scott Walker if he couldn’t return this year? Years in the minors, finally gets his chance, face broke, good luck in your next life.

Oh I absolutely get it and agree. Just saying from an ownership perspective that's also every problem solved
 
Oh I absolutely get it and agree. Just saying from an ownership perspective that's also every problem solved

Owners will always have something to complain about. Limit guarantees and long term deals. The players probably jump around alot more and sign short term deals. They then would complain how it’s hard to build a fan base when you are rebuilding a team every year.
 
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this is actually pretty interesting for our playoff chances. the majority of our games remaining are against non-playoff teams. 16 games remaining against san jose, anaheim, and arizona, and only 11 games remaining against vegas, colorado, and st. louis.
 


this is actually pretty interesting for our playoff chances. the majority of our games remaining are against non-playoff teams. 16 games remaining against san jose, anaheim, and arizona, and only 11 games remaining against vegas, colorado, and st. louis.


We're right where we thought we should be at the beginning of the season, ahead of the other 3, not all that far out of it. The surprise is that Minny's done so well and St. Louis is the vulnerable team, look at the how many games the blues have left against LVK, COL, and MIN.
 
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