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Sharks keep losing, but at least that team seems pissed about it. I wish the Kings were a bit more pissed off about their shit play.
 
Senators and Canadians win. A decent night for the tank. We're on pace to have the 2nd worst record in the league now.

Kubalik with 2 more goals tonight. He now has 20.
 
About Kuba, I don't want to re-ignite any discussion.
But to all the people that keep saying "Get over it, he never wanted to come to LA", I know Dominik in person, I also had some beers with him, and about the Kings he always said the same thing: "I don't like their offer". Now, Kubalik had to prove himself at NHL level, but what makes me wonder is HOW nobody in the Kings org realized how pure his talent was and put on the table the right offer. I mean, he had nothing against LA and the Kings, they simply could not find an agreement. And trading his rights for a crappy 5th rounder was piss poor asset management.
Professional hockey is a business, and you simply cannot trade such talent for a bag of pucks, in particular a franchise like the Kings which is rebuilding its pipeline. Someone really screwed up big time, considering Chicago is paying him less than 1M/year. I mean, he wasn't asking for the moon and the stars, and he's also on a 2 way contract.

The people that were laughing about him a few months ago, now they are nowhere to be found.
This kid is a gem, and he's only going to get better.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
I guess some of you simply never paid attention to the whole saga of trying to get Kubalik to come over.
Prospect Dominik Kubalik traded to Chicago for fifth round pick - LA Kings Insider

Maybe you guys should’ve talked to his agent to convince him to come over. Y’know, the same guy who represents other Blackhawks who Kubalik is close friends with.
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KZ, this is just speculation, and your quoting an article from a guy who barely knew who Kubalik was at the time. Besides, calling it saga is a bit too much. Just call it “Failing to pay a player what he’s worth and loosing him for nothing”.
 
He was bound to an entry-level contract. I’m quoting an article where the source actually spoke with Kings management, who thought highly of the player.

It’s a saga because the Kings tried for years to sign him, and suddenly it’s their fault Kubalik had zero interest signing here, and people who ignore what transpired continue to bring this crap up.
 
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this ovechkin guy might be pretty good some day
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I think he catches Gretzky. The combo of Carlson and Backstrom and Oshie on the PP is too much for teams. Ovie stays out the whole two minutes most the time. Works back door high and low, and has guys that know the game plan.
 
Does Columbus still need Quick? The Jackets are why teams don't, and won't, trade for him. Someone will give Holtby a lot of money though. The Caps lucked out on him. They don't have to sign him. That's amazing for them. Imagine if they had to give him $8m, $9m, $10m off a career worst year? Or if he had that worst season in the 1st year of some giant new contract? Sometimes it's all about timing.

Wouldn't it be nice if the Kings had someone that was emotionally invested enough like Perry? Hate the guy all you want, but at least he's in there. The Kings aren't in the same position as the Stars, so I get nobody really bringing it anymore, but I'd take Perry on the Kings if he stirred stuff up. Just something to make it interesting.
 
Albi said:
About Kuba, I don't want to re-ignite any discussion.
But to all the people that keep saying "Get over it, he never wanted to come to LA", I know Dominik in person, I also had some beers with him, and about the Kings he always said the same thing: "I don't like their offer". Now, Kubalik had to prove himself at NHL level, but what makes me wonder is HOW nobody in the Kings org realized how pure his talent was and put on the table the right offer. I mean, he had nothing against LA and the Kings, they simply could not find an agreement. And trading his rights for a crappy 5th rounder was piss poor asset management.
Professional hockey is a business, and you simply cannot trade such talent for a bag of pucks, in particular a franchise like the Kings which is rebuilding its pipeline. Someone really screwed up big time, considering Chicago is paying him less than 1M/year. I mean, he wasn't asking for the moon and the stars, and he's also on a 2 way contract.

The people that were laughing about him a few months ago, now they are nowhere to be found.
This kid is a gem, and he's only going to get better.
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ELCs are ELCs. There's not much flexibility with what can be offered beyond tinkering with the bonuses a bit.

How do Entry-Level Contracts Work?
Players younger than 25 years of age as of September 15 during the year of their first NHL contract must sign an entry-level contract which have set limitations - all entry-level contracts are two-way contracts and the maximum allowable salary for players drafted until 2022 is $925,000.

The length of the entry-level contract is also dependent on the player’s age:
  • 18-21 years of age: 3 years
  • 22-23 years of age: 2 years
  • 24 years of age: 1 year

Entry-level contracts can still include signing and performance bonuses. Signing bonuses may not exceed 10 percent of the contract’s total compensation, and is paid to players annually. Performance bonuses for entry-level contracts, that are paid by the team and count against the salary cap cannot exceed a maximum of $2,850,000. Performance Bonuses are broken into 2 categories: Schedule A and Schedule B. Schedule A Bonuses may not exceed $212,500 per individual bonus, and $850,000 in total. There are two types of Schedule B Bonuses. League-wide award/trophy bonuses that are paid by the league and are not captured within the actual entry-level contract signed by the player, and player & club agreed upon bonuses, of which the maximum is $2million per season.
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NHL CBA FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
 
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Albi said:
About Kuba, I don't want to re-ignite any discussion.
But to all the people that keep saying "Get over it, he never wanted to come to LA", I know Dominik in person, I also had some beers with him, and about the Kings he always said the same thing: "I don't like their offer". Now, Kubalik had to prove himself at NHL level, but what makes me wonder is HOW nobody in the Kings org realized how pure his talent was and put on the table the right offer. I mean, he had nothing against LA and the Kings, they simply could not find an agreement. And trading his rights for a crappy 5th rounder was piss poor asset management.
Professional hockey is a business, and you simply cannot trade such talent for a bag of pucks, in particular a franchise like the Kings which is rebuilding its pipeline. Someone really screwed up big time, considering Chicago is paying him less than 1M/year. I mean, he wasn't asking for the moon and the stars, and he's also on a 2 way contract.

The people that were laughing about him a few months ago, now they are nowhere to be found.
This kid is a gem, and he's only going to get better.
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He is.

It still pisses me off that people labeled him as the next Bud Holloway when he was still in Europe. I saw enough of him, to know he was a good player.

I loved to talk about him and constantly the same people annoyed the hell out of me with utter nonsense.

Where are they now, with their witty remarks ?

Prospect Info: - Kings 7th Round Pick #191 - Dominik Kubalik
 
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Albi said:
About Kuba, I don't want to re-ignite any discussion.
But to all the people that keep saying "Get over it, he never wanted to come to LA", I know Dominik in person, I also had some beers with him, and about the Kings he always said the same thing: "I don't like their offer". Now, Kubalik had to prove himself at NHL level, but what makes me wonder is HOW nobody in the Kings org realized how pure his talent was and put on the table the right offer. I mean, he had nothing against LA and the Kings, they simply could not find an agreement. And trading his rights for a crappy 5th rounder was piss poor asset management.
Professional hockey is a business, and you simply cannot trade such talent for a bag of pucks, in particular a franchise like the Kings which is rebuilding its pipeline. Someone really screwed up big time, considering Chicago is paying him less than 1M/year. I mean, he wasn't asking for the moon and the stars, and he's also on a 2 way contract.

The people that were laughing about him a few months ago, now they are nowhere to be found.
This kid is a gem, and he's only going to get better.
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Then why did he never come even to LA's development camp, something which is offered to unsigned prospects?

Plus, how can he not like an offer where there's a cap for ELCs?
 
Albi said:
KZ, this is just speculation, and your quoting an article from a guy who barely knew who Kubalik was at the time. Besides, calling it saga is a bit too much. Just call it “Failing to pay a player what he’s worth and loosing him for nothing”.
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It’s an entry-level contract. The Kings couldn’t give him any more money if they wanted to. Since you know him personally, why don’t you ask what the other factors were? Two different GMs tried to sign him.
 
I seriously believe the end of the discussion is "ELC." It's the same god damn contract. It's nothing to do with Blake's/DL's negotiation skills or anything else. We all offer the same stuff, he signs with someone else. That's it. It's not 'poor evaluation,' it's not 'we didn't like the player,' nothing.
 
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Canes beat the Isles 2-1 in the 8th round of a shoot out. It was a very entertaining game. They now have 59 pts, 2 pts out of 3rd in a very competitive Metro. Jackets are down 1-0 , and if they win, they'll have 60, leapfrogging past Canes.

GWG scored by Justin Williams (who had a very good game) Caniacs went nuts, roar was deafening.

He was smart enough to realize at his age, he didn't have 100 games left in him, esp how grueling a playoff run is. Canes were smart enough to give him that time, and realize what he provides in leadership has no price. Guy is pure winner.
 
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Albi said:
About Kuba, I don't want to re-ignite any discussion.
But to all the people that keep saying "Get over it, he never wanted to come to LA", I know Dominik in person, I also had some beers with him, and about the Kings he always said the same thing: "I don't like their offer". Now, Kubalik had to prove himself at NHL level, but what makes me wonder is HOW nobody in the Kings org realized how pure his talent was and put on the table the right offer. I mean, he had nothing against LA and the Kings, they simply could not find an agreement. And trading his rights for a crappy 5th rounder was piss poor asset management.
Professional hockey is a business, and you simply cannot trade such talent for a bag of pucks, in particular a franchise like the Kings which is rebuilding its pipeline. Someone really screwed up big time, considering Chicago is paying him less than 1M/year. I mean, he wasn't asking for the moon and the stars, and he's also on a 2 way contract.

The people that were laughing about him a few months ago, now they are nowhere to be found.
This kid is a gem, and he's only going to get better.
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My dad works at Nintendo.
 
Frolov 6'3 said:
He is.

It still pisses me off that people labeled him as the next Bud Holloway when he was still in Europe. I saw enough of him, to know he was a good player.

I loved to talk about him and constantly the same people annoyed the hell out of me with utter nonsense.

Where are they now, with their witty remarks ?

Prospect Info: - Kings 7th Round Pick #191 - Dominik Kubalik
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Indeed where are the idiots now that Kubalik has been a scoring machine F... LA and f... Blake that embecile!
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I seriously believe the end of the discussion is "ELC." It's the same god damn contract. It's nothing to do with Blake's/DL's negotiation skills or anything else. We all offer the same stuff, he signs with someone else. That's it. It's not 'poor evaluation,' it's not 'we didn't like the player,' nothing.
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Imagine the intensity of the crying here if the Kings didn't do anything and he signed with Chicago anyway. "Why didn't they trade him if he wasn't gonna sign?!"
 
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watch the second one...just amazing
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That Kubalik is a scoring machine and LA looks like shit for not signing or giving him a good enough offer...I would have traded every bloody forward the Kings have except Kopi and Kempe to get Kubalik
 
Chazz Reinhold said:
ELCs are ELCs. There's not much flexibility with what can be offered beyond tinkering with the bonuses a bit.



NHL CBA FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
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When I read about players ELC and how they can't exceed a certain amount I think about the McDavids of the world and how he was making almost 4M per year his first contract! Kubalik did not like the 925,000.00 entry level deal because there were no other things attached ala the Edmonton deal with McDavid. I'm not comparing the two talent wise just poking a whole in your argument about 925 Thousand period which is not the case. LA's deal had more to do with opportunity,minor league clause and garbage like that. Kubalik had proved himself on the European stage and LA crapped the bed in not recognizing and getting this player signed period end of discussion. Blake should have been a scout and talent evaluator before he was handed the GM reins where obviously he was not suited or qualified for!!!
 
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