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Around the League 2019-20 Pt. 2

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BigBrown said:
Happy to see the Flames confirming that their core consists of rotten losers.
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They don't have a viable core, that's pretty evident now, year in year out, playoff failure. They also lack leadership. They need that Richard. Williams, Greene, Mitchell, type of guys. Or some elite forwards that 'get it' .
Same reason the Bolts won't win the Cup, too much silk, not enough sandpaper. And Cooper gets outcoached every time hes in the playoffs.

I think Calgary needs to move some key pieces out, bring some new pieces in and establish a core group that can work.
 
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Milbury, whose been an ignorant jackass for years, did it again last night, during the Isles Caps game



Video: Mike Milbury is under fire AGAIN for on-air comments about 'distracting women'

Mike Milbury has been under fire, for what feels like these entire playoffs as the NBC analyst can't seem to say the right things at the right time. From calling players out for faking injuries to now this, Milbury may be looking for work next season.
During the Capitals and Islanders game 5 broadcast, the discussion got into how great the NHL bubble is for the players, and leave it to Mike Milbury to go here....



Plenty of capable , intelligent analysts out there. They don't need him....he's awful.

Feel badly that Forslund and Boosh are stuck with him.
 
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Have read that some GMs want to lower their CAP below the limit, giving them flexiblity due to the CAP freeze. They cited Jim Rutherford, who said he wants the Pens CAP in the 71M range and that other GM's are also looking in that direction. Problem is, not much room to move out big contracts.
So some teams may benefit by asking for draft picks as well.

This is going to be a difficult off season for alot of teams. Jackets, Caps, Pens among GM's that wnat to be active and change roster. Flames have to and Johnny G is the piece they'll have to move. HE's 27 and has shown little to nothing when it matters in the playoffs. I can't see them moving Monahan, top centers are too hard to come by and has a good contract for a few more years. They need to get a good coach too, Boudreau is out there, Lavvy (although he might be in Seattle) .
 
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deeshamrock said:
Have read that some GMs want to lower their CAP below the limit, giving them flexiblity due to the CAP freeze. They cited Jim Rutherford, who said he wants the Pens CAP in the 71M range and that other GM's are also looking in that direction. Problem is, not much room to move out big contracts.
So some teams may benefit by asking for draft picks as well.

This is going to be a difficult off season for alot of teams. Jackets, Caps, Pens among GM's that wnat to be active and change roster. Flames have to and Johnny G is the piece they'll have to move. HE's 27 and has shown little to nothing when it matters in the playoffs. I can't see them moving Monahan, top centers are too hard to come by and has a good contract for a few more years. They need to get a good coach too, Boudreau is out there, Lavvy (although he might be in Seattle) .
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What do you know, GMs finally get it. Having a roster top heavy with a couple of $10M+ cap hits don't win. Rantanen is Colorado's highest cap hit at $9.25M. Their window is now with McKinnon having this season and three more seasons at a cap hit of $6.3M.
 
Stolen from the Flames board. Let's hope the Kings don't have a similar experience. Calgary has only made it to the 2nd round, and to The Final once each in the last 30 years.

super6646 said:
Flames since winning cup:
90: 1st round exit
91: 1st round exit
92: 1st round exit
93: 1st round exit
94: 1st round exit
95: 1st round exit
96: 1st round exit
97: no playoffs
98: no playoffs
99: no playoffs
00: no playoffs
01: no playoffs
02: no playoffs
03: no playoffs
04: finals!
06: 1st round exit
07: 1st round exit
08: 1st round exit
09: 1st round exit
10: no playoffs
11: no playoffs
12: no playoffs
13: no playoffs
14: no playoffs
15: 2nd round exit
16: no playoffs
17: 1st round exit
18: no playoffs
19: 1st round exit (#1 seed)
20: 1st round exit

Credit bunk of CP for this. Mickey mouse level shit.
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I wonder how many years of Flames and other fans mocking #1 goalies it will take for them to realize there's a reason people pay good goalies what they worth instead of platooning through a million 40-game starters pretending the next one is the answer. So weird that Smith/Elliot/Ortio/Talbot/"Big Save Dave" just can't get it done huh? Who's up next?

Hockey fans' infatuation with moneyballing goalies is hilarious, love watching these guys get smacked down like dominoes yearly then wonder what happened.

I can't even count anymore how many times I've read "I'd rather have Brian Elliot than Jonathan Quick" over the years from the fans of the 37 teams he's been on
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I think there's a bit of a middle ground there, though. I do agree that gone are the days of *needing* an elite goaltender to win a championship. We have seen a lot of good-goaltenders-playing-great over the past few years win championships.

And honestly, Quick is hard to judge historically. He had a couple of truly elite regular seasons. He should have won the f***ing Hart in 2012, for example. But everyone seems to agree that Quick was a top 10-15 goaltender in the regular season but a top 1-2 goaltender in the postseason.

Fun fact: Quick's save percentage in that 2012 run (.946) is the best save percentage posted by any Cup winning goaltender in the modern era. The closest is Patrick Roy in 2001 with a .934
 
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SettlementRichie10 said:
I think there's a bit of a middle ground there, though. I do agree that gone are the days of *needing* an elite goaltender to win a championship. We have seen a lot of good-goaltenders-playing-great over the past few years win championships.

And honestly, Quick is hard to judge historically. He had a couple of truly elite regular seasons. He should have won the f***ing Hart in 2012, for example. But everyone seems to agree that Quick was a top 10-15 goaltender in the regular season but a top 1-2 goaltender in the postseason.

Fun fact: Quick's save percentage in that 2012 run (.946) is the best save percentage posted by any Cup winning goaltender in the modern era. The closest is Patrick Roy in 2001 with a .934
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There is, but hope isn't a strategy. Trying to catch lightning in a bottle by throwing two Michael Leighton's at the problem isn't a solution, it's desperation. It's clearly much more reliable to have a decently-paid top-tier starter instead of cycling through journeymen and hoping one sticks.
 
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I think there's a bit of a middle ground there, though. I do agree that gone are the days of *needing* an elite goaltender to win a championship. We have seen a lot of good-goaltenders-playing-great over the past few years win championships.

And honestly, Quick is hard to judge historically. He had a couple of truly elite regular seasons. He should have won the f***ing Hart in 2012, for example. But everyone seems to agree that Quick was a top 10-15 goaltender in the regular season but a top 1-2 goaltender in the postseason.

Fun fact: Quick's save percentage in that 2012 run (.946) is the best save percentage posted by any Cup winning goaltender in the modern era. The closest is Patrick Roy in 2001 with a .934
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Quick's only had one legit terrible season. His other "bad" seasons just made him look average and there's really only a couple of those.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I think there's a bit of a middle ground there, though. I do agree that gone are the days of *needing* an elite goaltender to win a championship. We have seen a lot of good-goaltenders-playing-great over the past few years win championships.

And honestly, Quick is hard to judge historically. He had a couple of truly elite regular seasons. He should have won the f***ing Hart in 2012, for example. But everyone seems to agree that Quick was a top 10-15 goaltender in the regular season but a top 1-2 goaltender in the postseason.

Fun fact: Quick's save percentage in that 2012 run (.946) is the best save percentage posted by any Cup winning goaltender in the modern era. The closest is Patrick Roy in 2001 with a .934
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Thomas? 2011
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SettlementRichie10 said:
I think there's a bit of a middle ground there, though. I do agree that gone are the days of *needing* an elite goaltender to win a championship. We have seen a lot of good-goaltenders-playing-great over the past few years win championships.

And honestly, Quick is hard to judge historically. He had a couple of truly elite regular seasons. He should have won the f***ing Hart in 2012, for example. But everyone seems to agree that Quick was a top 10-15 goaltender in the regular season but a top 1-2 goaltender in the postseason.

Fun fact: Quick's save percentage in that 2012 run (.946) is the best save percentage posted by any Cup winning goaltender in the modern era. The closest is Patrick Roy in 2001 with a .934
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Quick is a money goaltender.
 
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