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Around the League 2018-2019 Part 3

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the fact that they "have to" is exactly what bergevin is gnawing at imo.. it's not a tragedy if he gets matched, but bergevin gained information about dundon for nothing

dundon may have money but he's up against the old boys club here
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Caps after Leipsic now too. Dowd, Leipsic, Maillet...who's next?
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Not surprising at all that this is the year we hear a lot more RFA threats though, now that a bunch of GMs have owned themselves out of cap space, about the only finite resource in the league.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Not surprising at all that this is the year we hear a lot more RFA threats though, now that a bunch of GMs have owned themselves out of cap space, about the only finite resource in the league.
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Yeah. I'm guessing Blake is in on a lower-tier defenseman maybe - our defense really sucks - but other than that, our best bet is doing nothing. As we've seen over the past two weeks, having cap space can be a VERY beneficial thing. I wish we would have taken on Marleau for a first and either kept him or bought him out. Or, hell, flipped him to San Jose at 50% for another asset. We should take our time, save cap space, and take on some bad contracts next year for more assets.
 
onlyalad said:
Do signing bonuses need to be paid in a lockout year? I think that was the case at one time.
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Bonuses are usually paid on July 1st unless negotiated otherwise (apparently Marleau had a peculiar contract which pays bonuses split between July and December). Hypothetical lockout would happen when the league year begins on September 15, so the bonus would still be paid off beforehand.
 
So far:

Ducks haven't done anything
Coyotes lost Richard Panik and Calvin Pickard
Flames signed Cam Talbot, but lost Fantenberg, Hathaway, Smith, and Lazar
Oilers signed Mike Smith (lol) and Markus Granlund (lol)
Sharks re-signed Meier, but lost Pavelski, Nyquist, and Donskoi
Canucks signed Tyler Myers, Jordie Benn, and Fantenberg
Golden Knights re-signed Nosek and Pirri

No one really got better today in the Pacific.
 
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deeshamrock said:
They can't except that 21 M is almost as much as their revenue last year. So it might not be as easy as we all think.
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Comon D, just think about that number for a second...no way it’s true.

The number is probably sub slice of some subset.

This is all on my phone while at work, but NHL teams probably need in the region off $100 mil in revenues a year to break even (at the cap). If the only made $21 mil in revenues last year, dundon bought a team losing $80 mil a year?!?!?
 
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kilowatt said:
So far:

Ducks haven't done anything
Coyotes lost Richard Panik and Calvin Pickard
Flames signed Cam Talbot, but lost Fantenberg, Hathaway, Smith, and Lazar
Oilers signed Mike Smith (lol) and Markus Granlund (lol)
Sharks re-signed Meier, but lost Pavelski, Nyquist, and Donskoi
Canucks signed Tyler Myers, Jordie Benn, and Fantenberg
Golden Knights re-signed Nosek and Pirri

No one really got better today in the Pacific.
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Out of all those teams....Canucks drastically improved...

Their top six D are now,

Edler, Myers
Stecher, Tanev
Benn, Biega, Hughes, Fantenberg, Pouliot etc,

along with their young forwards, they are in a solid position maybe not next year...but the year after to make some noise.
 
The genius GMs of past years league are today's chumps. You either die a hero or live to see yourself become the villain.
 
lexlavender said:
The genius GMs of past years league are today's chumps. You either die a hero or live to see yourself become the villain.
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Sorta, the difference is a lot of these guys are running into the cap wall before even breaching the 2nd round. That's a recipe for disaster.
 
kilowatt said:
So far:

Ducks haven't done anything
Coyotes lost Richard Panik and Calvin Pickard
Flames signed Cam Talbot, but lost Fantenberg, Hathaway, Smith, and Lazar
Oilers signed Mike Smith (lol) and Markus Granlund (lol)
Sharks re-signed Meier, but lost Pavelski, Nyquist, and Donskoi
Canucks signed Tyler Myers, Jordie Benn, and Fantenberg
Golden Knights re-signed Nosek and Pirri

No one really got better today in the Pacific.
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Today. Have to take the previous June trades into account though. The Canucks and Coyotes have probably gotten better.
 
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KingLB said:
Comon D, just think about that number for a second...no way it’s true.

The number is probably sub slice of some subset.

This is all on my phone while at work, but NHL teams probably need in the region off $100 mil in revenues a year to break even (at the cap). If the only made $21 mil in revenues last year, dundon bought a team losing $80 mil a year?!?!?
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It is a subset of sorts, the reporter who posted is, said TSN noted the revenue last year was 25M, unless he misunderstood. The output for AHO would be 21M in 366 days, so that is significant. But I should have researched it a bit before posting.

According to the Forbes list below, they lose money every year. For 2018 the operating income was -3.9 M . And as the article states, without a basketball team to help anchor the cost of the arena, it's an uphill battle. THey are skating on thin ice.

Carolina Hurricanes on the Forbes The Business of Hockey List
 
deeshamrock said:
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It is a subset of sorts, the reporter who posted is, said TSN noted the revenue last year was 25M, unless he misunderstood. The output for AHO would be 21M in 366 days, so that is significant. But I should have researched it a bit before posting.

According to the Forbes list below, they lose money every year. For 2018 the operating income was -3.9 M . And as the article states, without a basketball team to help anchor the cost of the arena, it's an uphill battle. THey are skating on thin ice.

Carolina Hurricanes on the Forbes The Business of Hockey List
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Again, just simple math says that’s just wrong, let’s assume the Hurricanes only had to pay player salaries, at ~70 mil. If they only lost $4 mil. It means they had to have made atleast $66 mil in revenues last year...
 
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