Around the League '16-'17 There are no games after 82 edition

[Bandit]

I wonder where the Penguins would be if they applied that strategy.

They're an example that drafting well and injecting youth in the lineup (Guentzel, Sheary, Rust, Murray, etc.), making low risk-high reward moves (Schultz, Daley, Hainsey), and adding scoring support (Kessel, Bonino) to go along with the core is what brought them back on top.

They didn't have to be big spenders in free agency, have also lost some top players like Staal, Neal, Niskanen, and they still have remained contenders. It helps that their highest paid players perform. That's necessary for a team's success.

The penguins aren't the model of anything, they got lucky, period. They were able to sign Crosby to a twelve year deal, and Malkin to an eight year deal, and then the cap conveniently went up 13 million over the next 4 years. There were also two amnesty buyout periods after they signed their deals.

Kinda wouldn't seem so bad if the Kings could buy out Brown and Gaborik right now with no penalty, would it? The Kings would be in a pretty damn good position if they could do that, and that's without the cap going up a cent.

 

[johnjm22]

Not as long as Ovie is there. Failures every playoff run since he arrived under 4 different coaches. Great player, but not a leader, where it counts.

There's just something about a team that's built around a winger.

 

[Stimpythecat]

The penguins aren't the model of anything, they got lucky, period. They were able to sign Crosby to a twelve year deal, and Malkin to an eight year deal, and then the cap conveniently went up 13 million over the next 4 years. There were also two amnesty buyout periods after they signed their deals.

Kinda wouldn't seem so bad if the Kings could buy out Brown and Gaborik right now with no penalty, would it? The Kings would be in a pretty damn good position if they could do that, and that's without the cap going up a cent.

Addressing the bolded. Brown is overpaid. Carter is underpaid. I see that collectively, it's a wash. I'm far more concerned about Gaborik.


I posted this on the around the league thread earlier. Friedmen mentioned that the kings are likely keeping an eye on Tavares.

People here were wondering why.

By 2018 when Tavares is a UFA, if things go south in his negotiations, this is the cap space for the kings not including any increase after the 2017-2018 season

Greene - $2.5
Nolan - .$95
Vegas takes a player (lewis or mcnabb) - $1.7-$2
Bill Daly said in march that the cap could go up by as much as $2.5-$3
trade clifford - $1.6

If the Daly report is accurate, then that's $9.25-$10.05 more than this season and that is without doing anything with Brown/Gaborik or even trading one of Muzzin/Martinez. Plus there is one more year for the cap to go up.

Sign an impact UFA for nothing and then the Kings are right back in this.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Addressing the bolded. Brown is overpaid. Carter is underpaid. I see that collectively, it's a wash. I'm far more concerned about Gaborik.


I posted this on the around the league thread earlier. Friedmen mentioned that the kings are likely keeping an eye on Tavares.

People here were wondering why.

By 2018 when Tavares is a UFA, if things go south in his negotiations, this is the cap space for the kings not including any increase after the 2017-2018 season

Greene - $2.5
Nolan - .$95
Vegas takes a player (lewis or mcnabb) - $1.7-$2
Bill Daly said in march that the cap could go up by as much as $2.5-$3
trade clifford - $1.6

If the Daly report is accurate, then that's $9.25-$10.05 more than this season and that is without doing anything with Brown/Gaborik or even trading one of Muzzin/Martinez. Plus there is one more year for the cap to go up.

Sign an impact UFA for nothing and then the Kings are right back in this.

Kings are getting way too top heavy. What about Doughty's $4 million raise?

Edit: Also have to factor in replacement players for the guys they're losing. An average of $750,000 per player is around $3,000,000 taking your $9.25 million down to $6.25 million.

 

[tny760]

and toffoli/pearson's raises

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Signing Tavares without moving Brown or Gaborik's contracts, if not BOTH, is a pure NHL 17 GM mode pipe dream.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

A top free agent signing with LA is a pipe dream period.

 

[Legionnaire]

Sigh. Tarasenko is the exact player that the Kings need/needed.

 

[kingsfan28]

God that line is so dumb. Wait, you mean especially in this cap era and with that level of success the Hawks weren't going to win forever? I also would like to predict that 29 teams will not win the Cup this year.

Edit: Oh, it's Ryan Lambert. No wonder.

Lambert's a hack!

You could feel the tears streaming from his eyes when Doughty won the Norris over his undeniable, no question, ain't even close choice Erik Karlsson.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Kings are getting way too top heavy. What about Doughty's $4 million raise?

Edit: Also have to factor in replacement players for the guys they're losing. An average of $750,000 per player is around $3,000,000 taking your $9.25 million down to $6.25 million.

Doughty's raise comes from eventually getting rid of Gaborik's contract.

I asked about what the RFAs would sign for in a different thread and the only response back was Kings4thecup saying an average of $1 million. This can be done.

2018 not next season

Brown--Kopitar--Carter 5,875,000--10,000,000--5,272,727 = 21,147,727
Toffoli--Tavares--Pearson 6,000,000--10,000,000--3,500,000 = 19,500,000
Kempe--Dowd--Brodzinski 894,167--2,000.000 (RFA)--1,000,000 (RFA) = 3,894,000
Mersch--Shore--Lewis 1,000,000--1,000,000--2,000,000 = 4,000,000
Total: 48,541,727

Forbort--Doughty 2,000,000--7,000,000 =9,000,000
LaDue--Muzzin 1.000.000--4,000.000 =5,000,000
Gravel--Martinez 1,000.000--4,000,000 =5,000,000
Total: 19,000,000

Quick 5,800,000
campbell 1,000,000
Total: 6,800,000

Total: 74,341,727

Remember Daly said the cap could be $75.5 - $76 million for 2017-2018.


Edit: Doughty money could also come from trading Martinez.

 

[kingsfan28]

Sigh. Tarasenko is the exact player that the Kings need/needed.

Subban had the "Doughty special" moments before, shooting high and wide with a point blank shot.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Sigh. Tarasenko is the exact player that the Kings need/needed.

Toffoli has that potential.

 

[Stimpythecat]

why else would friedman specifically mention the kings and Tavares?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Toffoli has that potential.

I dunno... Tarasenko has had three consecutive seasons of 30+ goals and 70+ points.

Been a looooong time since the Kings had a consistently productive winger like that.

 

[kingsfan28]

The couple with the day-glo vests hadn't even sat down and the Oilers go up 1-0.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I dunno... Tarasenko has had three consecutive seasons of 30+ goals and 70+ points.

Been a looooong time since the Kings had a consistently productive winger like that.

Yeah, I should have rephrased that. I feel Toffoli has consistent 30 goal potential when healthy. I think that 16 season where he scored 31 is indicative of his future, and I still think he can find another gear.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Health helps. A healthy Quick and the kings don't play the defensive style to shield their G position.

Stevens seemed to do wonders in Philadelphia for their offense. Let's see what he can do with a healthier Kings roster.

 

[kingsfan28]

Stupid Oilers .Bad penalty and it cost them, 2-1. What the hell was Nurse doing waving his stick like that when the puck was already by him?

 

[deeshamrock]

Addressing the bolded. Brown is overpaid. Carter is underpaid. I see that collectively, it's a wash. I'm far more concerned about Gaborik.


I posted this on the around the league thread earlier. Friedmen mentioned that the kings are likely keeping an eye on Tavares.

People here were wondering why.

By 2018 when Tavares is a UFA, if things go south in his negotiations, this is the cap space for the kings not including any increase after the 2017-2018 season

Greene - $2.5
Nolan - .$95
Vegas takes a player (lewis or mcnabb) - $1.7-$2
Bill Daly said in march that the cap could go up by as much as $2.5-$3
trade clifford - $1.6

If the Daly report is accurate, then that's $9.25-$10.05 more than this season and that is without doing anything with Brown/Gaborik or even trading one of Muzzin/Martinez. Plus there is one more year for the cap to go up.

Sign an impact UFA for nothing and then the Kings are right back in this.

I'm sure there is a lot of teams keeping an eye on JT. M0re importantly, I can't see him keeping an eye on the Kings. First of all, he's a #1 center , not a #2 and no GM worth his salt is giving 10M per year for a #2, bad enough for a #1. And if he leaves the Isles, which I think he will, he'd have a pretty good field to pick from and most likely a contender. And pretty sure he'd prefer to stay in the EC. Just don't see him in LA at all.

 

[deeshamrock]

Good risk for the Canes, giving up a 3rd round pick for the rights to Scott Darling. Lack is awful, , they need to unload him. Darling has a shot to be a starter there. Now they need to get a #1 center, which I think they have a plan in motion for. Good team on the rise.

 

[kingsfan28]

Man, the Ducks-Oilers GDT is like two kids fighting over a toy, but instead its about the refs.

 

[HookKing]

Man, the Ducks-Oilers GDT is like two kids fighting over a toy, but instead its about the refs.

Oilers are about ready to fold.

 

[deeshamrock]

Health helps. A healthy Quick and the kings don't play the defensive style to shield their G position.

Stevens seemed to do wonders in Philadelphia for their offense. Let's see what he can do with a healthier Kings roster.

THey didn't sacrifice offense to play defense. Most of the forwards just weren't consistent all year. THey had chances to produce offense and just didn't. And they failed worse after Quick came back.

 

[HookKing]

Every shot from the Ducks D is on net.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Maybe Edmonton should sign Adam Oates, Mike Peca, Jarret Stoll and Shawn Horcoff to help them on faceoffs.