Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy

[KingsFan7824]

It does sound silly, and I know Chicago is in a bad cap situation, but its not like Hosa was an over the hill player with a bad cap hit that they desperately needed to get off the books. The guy was one of their best players. I don't think they would make up the rash thing to simply get him off the books.

He's making a million in each of the last 4 years of his contract. This was always the plan. Hossa just happened to get this rash, or it became a big deal, in the first year of the last 4 years of his contract? Same as Zetterberg. He's already said he's probably going to retire after next year, just as his salary drops to $1m for 2 years. Those contracts were signed when you could do that, so you can only hold teams and players to a standard for so long. Entirely possible Hossa has been playing with the rash for decades, and only planned on playing until he was 38. Those last 4 years were thrown on there to keep the cap hit low.

Hossa's made most of his money. He's played a lot of games. The equivalent of 16 years, plus another 2.5 of playoff hockey. He goes on LTIR, and he still gets that peasant's salary for this year, and each of the next 3 years. If his salary was $4m again like last year, does he say he can't play? The world will never know.

 

[johnjm22]

It makes me wonder about Jeff Carter.

Starting in 2019 he'll be getting paid 3M. Then 2M in each of the following years.

Is he really going to play for that little? Is it worth it to him to put in full effort when only getting paid that much?

 

[Steve Zissou]

****in' A, man. I got a rash, man.

He's a good man....and thorough.

 

[kingsfan28]

The part that needs to be fixed is the retirement part. If they can't play again they retire especially on the 35+ contracts.
There's really no big deal even trading them while on it. But there should be an expectation they'll maybe return.
My biggest example is Pronger. Working for the league while collecting a players salary. The should be circumvention.

And the Flyers saved 5 mil a year in cap space, then were able to trade him to a team who had cap space.

 

[kingsfan28]

It makes me wonder about Jeff Carter.

Starting in 2019 he'll be getting paid 3M. Then 2M in each of the following years.

Is he really going to play for that little? Is it worth it to him to put in full effort when only getting paid that much?

Front loaded contracts tend to do that. By then he'd have already made 51 mil of the 58 mil contract. Crosbys contract goes from 9 mil to 3 mil in 5 years.

 

[YP44]

And the Flyers saved 5 mil a year in cap space, then were able to trade him to a team who had cap space.

I am good with the LTIR cap savings and the ability to trade it.

I am pro anything that helps facilitates more trades in the league and if you take the ability to do this away then we will lose some trades.

 

[KingsFan7824]

It makes me wonder about Jeff Carter.

Starting in 2019 he'll be getting paid 3M. Then 2M in each of the following years.

Is he really going to play for that little? Is it worth it to him to put in full effort when only getting paid that much?

It's possible. Carter is still on the younger side though, in terms of old guys. 33 by the end of the year. 37 when his contract is completely done. Quick is in the same boat. Hossa, Zetterberg, they're already 38 years old when their salaries drop like a rock. Sort of similar, but a little different.

Then, of course, who knows what happens and when with the CBA.

 

[Sol]

Speaking of which I don't know if I'm the only one, but I have a sick feeling quick is gonna have a bad year. Oi.

 

[HookKing]

Yikes, Brian Boyle of the Devils diagnosed with leukemia.

 

[kingsfan28]

I guess we all should start getting used to 15 slashing calls a game. They should call it the Johnny Hockey rule.

 

[damacles1156]

I guess we all should start getting used to 15 slashing calls a game. They should call it the Johnny Hockey rule.

Hopefully the players adjust.

The League said it would be cracking down on stick fouls.

 

[deeshamrock]

Yikes, Brian Boyle of the Devils diagnosed with leukemia.

Apparently, they caught it early and he expects it won't affect his playing time.

Best of luck to him, good guy.


Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 14h14 hours ago

NJ announce Brian Boyle was diagnosed with CML -- a type of cancer of the bone marrow treatable with medication. Says it was caught early.

 

[deeshamrock]

Hopefully the players adjust.

The League said it would be cracking down on stick fouls.

Some adjust more than others...


Jimmy Murphy‏Verified account @MurphysLaw74 18h18 hours ago

#NHL Bruins F Brad Marchand absolutely went off on the new #NHL faceoff rules today. "Complete joke!" "We should just have d-men take draws"

 

[KingsFan7824]

While I do like players being able to bend a rule every now and then, I also don't mind the refs calling things tighter if players are going to complain about it. Players know exactly what they're doing when trying to get away with things.

I dislike when Doughty or Muzzin try and take that one extra second to knock the guy off his line as they cross the blue line. They both do it damn near every time they're in that situation, and I wish both got a penalty for it more often than they do. Muzzin can be slow sometimes, so I get that, but Doughty doesn't need to do it, but he does it. Then he'll complain if he gets called on it. Shut up and go to the box. You know what you did.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Kind of reminds me of the first year post lockout where instead of the refs adjusting to the players and calling less, the players adjusted to the refs. Parros is looking at things and he's an educated dude, one who will react hopefully logically rather than emotionally, and no one can question his toughness--and while MORE penalties probably works against the bigger tougher teams like the Kings (you know what I mean), if they're going to stick to their guns here, I'm happy. The quality of play in those late 2000s years was great.

While I do like players being able to bend a rule every now and then, I also don't mind the refs calling things tighter if players are going to complain about it. Players know exactly what they're doing when trying to get away with things.

I dislike when Doughty or Muzzin try and take that one extra second to knock the guy off his line as they cross the blue line. They both do it damn near every time they're in that situation, and I wish both got a penalty for it more often than they do. Muzzin can be slow sometimes, so I get that, but Doughty doesn't need to do it, but he does it. Then he'll complain if he gets called on it. Shut up and go to the box. You know what you did.

Absolutely, but the consistency with the calls has been the issue. If they call EVERYTHING, then yeah, you can't complain.

 

[tsanuri]

Kind of reminds me of the first year post lockout where instead of the refs adjusting to the players and calling less, the players adjusted to the refs. Parros is looking at things and he's an educated dude, one who will react hopefully logically rather than emotionally, and no one can question his toughness--and while MORE penalties probably works against the bigger tougher teams like the Kings (you know what I mean), if they're going to stick to their guns here, I'm happy. The quality of play in those late 2000s years was great.



Absolutely, but the consistency with the calls has been the issue. If they call EVERYTHING, then yeah, you can't complain.

He'll be hampered by the same thing every other person in his position is. And that's the CBA and the league itself not wanting to be tested on appeal.
As to the calling everything Paul Stewart wrote an article, think it was last year, about him calling everything in a game once. And he got a call from the director of officials about it. In reality we don't want them to call everything, it ruins the flow of the game, we just want them to be consistent. Would be much better consistent across the board but at least within a game. And within each game is probably all we can hope for.

 

[BigKing]

I hate power plays. I want 5 v. 5 hockey. Can't believe people are on board with more penalties because it might increase scoring.

So one more goal a game, but at what cost? An additional eight minutes out of sixty where one team is just trying to throw the puck down the ice? Awesome.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I hate power plays. I want 5 v. 5 hockey. Can't believe people are on board with more penalties because it might increase scoring.

So one more goal a game, but at what cost? An additional eight minutes out of sixty where one team is just trying to throw the puck down the ice? Awesome.

That's not the idea. The idea is that if you're consistently handing out penalties, the players themselves will stop committing penalties so NO ONE has to go through what you're describing. I can deal with an extra power play or two a game if the flow of the game is better (don't have the stats offhand about PPs after the lockout)

 

[Little Psycho]

Kings already take too many penalties, this new rule ain't gonna help them.

 

[King'sPawn]

I hate power plays. I want 5 v. 5 hockey. Can't believe people are on board with more penalties because it might increase scoring.

So one more goal a game, but at what cost? An additional eight minutes out of sixty where one team is just trying to throw the puck down the ice? Awesome.

So you prefer 5-on-5 obstruction hockey? Nothing like watching those high skilled guys with defensemen water-skiiing behind them, unable to get a shot off because of hooks and slashes to the hands.

 

[BigKing]

So you prefer 5-on-5 obstruction hockey? Nothing like watching those high skilled guys with defensemen water-skiiing behind them, unable to get a shot off because of hooks and slashes to the hands.

Roll everything back to the 80s and 90s and I'd be a happy man. Face washes, scrums, obstruction. Bring it on.

Nothing like watching those high skilled guys pass the puck back and forth for an entire minute with very little skating going on.

Playoff hockey is better because the stakes are higher, of course, but it is also better when it gets into the 3rd period and they put the whistles away.

Regardless...there isn't a problem and the league is creating one. It's already a farce that the sticks break so easy now that you get two minutes for barely slashing a guys stick a foot-and-a-half away from his hands. It's called being strong on your stick.

Didn't think I'd have to only be 37 years old to be a "get off my lawn guy" but my goodness what a bunch of soft ****s the NHL has become.

 

[HookKing]

Kings already take too many penalties, this new rule ain't gonna help them.

Yeah, but at least Stoll is long gone.

 

[mbar]

I hate power plays. I want 5 v. 5 hockey. Can't believe people are on board with more penalties because it might increase scoring.

So one more goal a game, but at what cost? An additional eight minutes out of sixty where one team is just trying to throw the puck down the ice? Awesome.

put this guy in charge.

5 v 5 hockey is the game. Never ending power plays are the pits.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If the NHL aspires to copy the NBA style of officiating with the constant fouls for breathing on another player, then they sure are on the right path.

 

[kingsboy11]

Yeah, but at least Stoll is long gone.

Stoll would just spend his games in the box with all the faceoff violations and slashing. And that's not even counting his penalties in the last 5 minutes