Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy

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They’re gonna have to pay Laine, Connor, Trouba, Hellebuyck, and Morrissey over the next 2 years. Wheeler is also a UFA at the end of next year.

Ehlers $6 million per deal kicks in next year, up from his current $895k.

Little and Perreault account for about 9 million in cap space over the next 4 years,

Gonna be a challenge to maintain that roster.
True, and if they pick the right guys to re-sign to the bigger deals, they will be fine. It's always tougher to stay on top. Doesn't matter what Winnipeg does though, the Kings aren't catching up to them with an aging roster.

Herby is correct. Barring significant injuries, the Jets are going to be the class of the Western Conference for to next few years.
 
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Scary thing about this Jets team is how young they are.

They are going to have the best roster in the West for atleast the next five years and the team that overtakes them will be one that went through a complete rebuild. That is why, if the goal is to win championships the Kings need to start over.

The black hole teams like the Kings, Ducks, Sharks, Hawks, Wild just aren’t close.

This is the same shit people were saying about Edmonton and Calgary last year.

Winnipeg hasn’t won anything yet.
 
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This is the same **** people were saying about Edmonton and Calgary last year.

Winnipeg hasn’t won anything yet.
No, but the Jets are in a position to contend for the next 3-5 years. That is an enviable position to be in with a team loaded with talented players under the age of 25.
 
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No, but the Jets are in a position to contend for the next 3-5 years. That is an enviable position to be in with a team loaded with talented players under the age of 25.

Being bad and drafting high end skill is paying off for them. The only downside is those guys will be expecting big paydays. A better version of the Oilers.
 
This is the same **** people were saying about Edmonton and Calgary last year.

Winnipeg hasn’t won anything yet.

Who was?

You think Calgary or Edmonton’s roster compares to this roster?

Laine is 20, Connor is 21, Ehlers is 22, Scheifele is 25, Trouba is 24, Hellebucyk is 24.

Sorry but you’re in complete denial if you don’t think this is going to be a dominant roster for a long time.
 
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Who was?

You think Calgary or Edmonton’s roster compares to this roster?

Laine is 20, Connor is 21, Ehlers is 22, Scheifele is 25, Trouba is 24, Hellebucyk is 24.

Sorry but you’re in complete denial if you don’t think this is going to be a dominant roster for a long time.

I never said this Jets team didn’t look very strong. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

You were heaping the same exact hyperbolic praise on the Oilers and Flames this time last year. If pointing that out makes you feel sheepish, that’s your problem.
 
Who was?

You think Calgary or Edmonton’s roster compares to this roster?

Laine is 20, Connor is 21, Ehlers is 22, Scheifele is 25, Trouba is 24, Hellebucyk is 24.

Sorry but you’re in complete denial if you don’t think this is going to be a dominant roster for a long time.

Yeah, the only road block will be the cap.
 
I never said this Jets team didn’t look very strong. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

You were heaping the same exact hyperbolic praise on the Oilers and Flames this time last year. If pointing that out makes you feel sheepish, that’s your problem.
I don't remember who it was exactly that kept saying the Kings aren't going to be able to get past McDavid and Draisaitl for the next decade. LOL, the Oilers can't even get into the dance. As "bad" as the Kings have been, the Oilers are still aspiring to be a team good enough to get swept in the first round. :)
 
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I don't remember who it was exactly that kept saying the Kings aren't going to be able to get past McDavid and Draisaitl for the next decade. LOL, the Oilers can't even get into the dance. As "bad" as the Kings have been, the Oilers are still aspiring to be a team good enough to get swept in the first round. :)
I said it, and I still think the Oilers will be back next season. They have a much better roster than the Kings, but it needs work. Talbot really let them down last season.

How many playoff games have the Oilers won in the last 4 seasons? How many have the Kings won?

People are welcome to their opinions, but I think if you do an honest comparison of the two rosters, the Oilers are in a better position moving forward than the Kings.
 
Did the Oilers or Flames reach the Conference Finals yet?

Which is exactly what makes all that praise last year completely ludicrous.

Jets look very good, but they’re going to hemorrhage depth as they re-sign their core, just like the Kings and Hawks. And who the hell knows how these players perform next year? No one believed the Oilers would miss the playoffs a year after their apparent breakout. Players regress. Sure things disappear. Top two defenseman beat up their girlfriends and self-deport. Shit happens.

Anointing the Jets as the next dynasty of the West is a bit premature when they’ve won a grand total of one conference final game, don’t you think?
 
I said it, and I still think the Oilers will be back next season. They have a much better roster than the Kings, but it needs work. Talbot really let them down last season.

How many playoff games have the Oilers won in the last 4 seasons? How many have the Kings won?

People are welcome to their opinions, but I think if you do an honest comparison of the two rosters, the Oilers are in a better position moving forward than the Kings.

Oilers are absolutely in a better position to contend - no doubt about it.
 
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I said it, and I still think the Oilers will be back next season. They have a much better roster than the Kings, but it needs work. Talbot really let them down last season.

How many playoff games have the Oilers won in the last 4 seasons? How many have the Kings won?

People are welcome to their opinions, but I think if you do an honest comparison of the two rosters, the Oilers are in a better position moving forward than the Kings.
Why are we stopping at the last 4 seasons, perhaps make it the last 5 seasons, it would make me feel better.
 
Who was?

You think Calgary or Edmonton’s roster compares to this roster?

Laine is 20, Connor is 21, Ehlers is 22, Scheifele is 25, Trouba is 24, Hellebucyk is 24.

Sorry but you’re in complete denial if you don’t think this is going to be a dominant roster for a long time.


And all it took them was 17 years of qualifying for the playoffs only twice and relocating the franchise.

Forgive me for not wanting to rush into that.
 
The Jets are in the final four. Let’s be honest, the Kings would trade places with them right now. Remind me again how many playoff games the Kings have won in the past four years.

They won as many playoff games this year as team’s who didn’t even qualify for the playoffs. I don’t think discrediting teams in the final four is something Kings fans should be engaging in.

The Kings weren’t exactly the modicum for success prior to 2012. You gotta start somewhere.
 
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And all it took them was 17 years of qualifying for the playoffs only twice and relocating the franchise.

Forgive me for not wanting to rush into that.

I’d rather be awful and add pieces than lose in the 1st round or miss the playoffs.

If you want to do that and watch 11, 8, 32, 77 slowly decline and have the 14-20 pick every year that is fine, but if the goal is to win a championship the Kings are light years away from Winnipeg. They just attack in waves, all four lines contributing. Our talent at forward is garbage.
 
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Which is exactly what makes all that praise last year completely ludicrous.

Jets look very good, but they’re going to hemorrhage depth as they re-sign their core, just like the Kings and Hawks. And who the hell knows how these players perform next year? No one believed the Oilers would miss the playoffs a year after their apparent breakout. Players regress. Sure things disappear. Top two defenseman beat up their girlfriends and self-deport. **** happens.

Anointing the Jets as the next dynasty of the West is a bit premature when they’ve won a grand total of one conference final game, don’t you think?
I think the Jets are in a pretty good spot for the next several seasons.

Scheifele is signed long term for $6.125M - Age 25

Little long term for $5.291M - Age 32

Ehlers long term for $6M - Age 22

Laine and Connor are still RFAs when their next contracts are due after the 2018-19 seasons. They will both make good money, but Winnipeg should go to school on the mistakes other teams have made when negotiating those deals.

They have Mason making $4.1M in cap hit they can dump. The Jets should be careful with the next Enstrom contract. He is making $5.75 a season and is 33 years old. I don't they should offer him a long term deal. If fact, in may be time to move on from him. Maybe the Jets will learn from the Kings and Hawks mistakes.
 
I don't think they're going to re-sign Enstrom. He's only played 8 games in the playoffs, and only played 43 games during the regular season. He's playing bottom pairing minutes and not producing. If they do offer him a deal, it will be very cheap.

It will be more interesting to see what they do with Stastny. He's been a good fit. 15 points in 13 playoff games. It will be tempting to re-sign him, but he'll be 33 next season.
 
If you want to do that and watch 11, 8, 32, 77 slowly decline and have the 14-20 pick every year that is fine.
Aside from Laine, none of the Jets talent was picked top 5.

Kings just need to hang onto their picks and good things will eventually start to happen.

I'm pretty sure we'll be picking higher than 14th-20th as 11, 8, 32 & 77 decline.
 
I don't think they're going to re-sign Enstrom. He's only played 8 games in the playoffs, and only played 43 games during the regular season. He's playing bottom pairing minutes and not producing. If they do offer him a deal, it will be very cheap.

It will be more interesting to see what they do with Stastny. He's been a good fit. 15 points in 13 playoff games. It will be tempting to re-sign him, but he'll be 33 next season.
Stastny is probably playing the best hockey he has played in several years in these playoffs. You bring up a good point, and he is another player the Jets should walk away from unless he takes an inexpensive 1 or 2 year deal.
 
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And all it took them was 17 years of qualifying for the playoffs only twice and relocating the franchise.
Forgive me for not wanting to rush into that.
But they didn't really start doing things right until 2011. They did have Kane, Byfuglien, Little, Wheeler ect. left over from the Atlanta era which was a nice group of assets to start with though.

I say their current build was a 6-7 year ordeal.
 
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Stastny is probably playing the best hockey he has played in several years in these playoffs. You bring up a good point, and he is another player the Jets should walk away from unless he takes an inexpensive 1 or 2 year deal.

I think both of those guys are gone and depending on what happens I think Wheeler is unfortunately in that discussion as well since he'll be...33? at contract time.


But they didn't really start doing things right until 2011. They did have Kane, Byfuglien, Little, Wheeler ect. left over from the Atlanta era which was a nice group of assets to start with though.

I say their current build was a 6-7 year ordeal.

I totally agree, and I think Chevy gets full props for managing it this way and ownership for trusting the process. But thank you for recognizing previous assets because I think a few folks are being shortsighted on how Winnipeg started to come together.
 
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