tny760
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my ego still wants the knights to win it
"oh well lost to the cup winners" is an easy pill to swallow
Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy
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"oh well lost to the cup winners" is an easy pill to swallow
damacles1156
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KingsFan7824
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I'd say the only team left I want to see win is the Caps.
The year after their 2 year Cup window closed, when they weren't supposed to be as good, because they lost a bunch of guys and had no cap space, that's when they win. They have to go dumpster diving for guys like Chiasson and Smith-Pelly, that's who they try to replace Justin Williams with, that's when they win. They still have 37 year old Brooks Orpik, still in their top 10 in playoff ice time, that's when they win.
The year after their 2 year Cup window closed, when they weren't supposed to be as good, because they lost a bunch of guys and had no cap space, that's when they win. They have to go dumpster diving for guys like Chiasson and Smith-Pelly, that's who they try to replace Justin Williams with, that's when they win. They still have 37 year old Brooks Orpik, still in their top 10 in playoff ice time, that's when they win.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
He's been great all year and a lot of fun to watch. Under the radar somehow. Thought he was just hot early but he's looking like a top pairing guy.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Love the way the game is being played right now. We had 15-20 years where defense and system hockey was on top, and right now the emphasis is on speed and skill, it's really a great product.
kingsboy11
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Tip of the hat to the Capitals. Thought their time was done and was for sure going to get eliminated by the Pens yet again. I'm pretty content with any of the remaining teams to win except Vegas. I probably still won't believe they'll win the cup even if they are up 3-0 in the Stanley Cup finals
Ziggy Stardust
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I’m sure you wouldn’t be saying that if the Sharks won it all in 2016.
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johnjm22
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I don't think the product is as good now as it was coming out of the lockout in 05-06.
There's too many play stoppages during games and not enough scoring chances. The NHL needs to figure out how to improve game flow and minimize whistles.
The game isn't any faster now than it was 12 years ago.
In o5-06 there was 37 players that averaged a point per game or more. This year only 24 players did it.
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Never got this mentality. Why would you want the team that stopped you from reaching your goal to reach the same goal?
Sol
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Are you insane. That's the worst thing that can happen. The amount of ego they will gain will be insufferable. They already are terrible fans. Why give them a bigger stick to smack us with ? The Fook.
Sol
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It's pretty amazing. Around the time the Kings won their first cup hockey games were so boring and talentless.
Looking back it sure seems that hockey is in a better place
That's more credit to the goaltending, shot blocking and team defense.
Not sure much can be done about game flow, take out offsides or icings, but then you fundamentally change the game, and they aren't going to do that yet...
Who I am cheering for:
Capitals (if they win I win $800)
Jets (if they win I win booze)
Other than that do not really care. Nashville would be nice. They have done so well at building that roster without any top 3 picks (I believe anyway) that it would nice to see them rewarded. This is a copy cat league and the Johansen and Subban deals were bold. Would be nice to see other teams making this big large impact deals.
Capitals (if they win I win $800)
Jets (if they win I win booze)
Other than that do not really care. Nashville would be nice. They have done so well at building that roster without any top 3 picks (I believe anyway) that it would nice to see them rewarded. This is a copy cat league and the Johansen and Subban deals were bold. Would be nice to see other teams making this big large impact deals.
BigKing
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Too bad it isn't like when there were several 100 point scorers on top of multiple 200-300 PIM guys. We used to get the best of both worlds but now we get very few of the former and none of the latter. Lots of dudes that can skate and play defense while never scoring or hitting. Hooray.
As for the results, love that Pittsburgh is out. What a shit stain of a fan base they put forward on the main board, along with the jackholes that sat behind me at Staples this year. Love that they still lost after all their Wilson whining.
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Glad the Pens are out.
I'm cheering for the bolts, preds, or jets. I'd be ok with the caps too. I don't want the knights for the reasons people have stated.
I'm cheering for the bolts, preds, or jets. I'd be ok with the caps too. I don't want the knights for the reasons people have stated.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I think it's still evolving, too. Right now you have a few top teams who will just play that eye-bleeding Boucher style defense, but they have the speed and talent to kill you on the rush. hate the first part, but love that they can back people off with lightning strikes, because you can see that loosening up the game a bit.
I can't agree with this, though, and not just because we were winning. There was physical, exhausting looking hockey being played. Those Kings teams were just running over people and making insanely quick passes, they were playing fast, and it's not like the Hawks were boring, the Blues were our evil twin, the Canucks were slowing down but still playing a high skill game, and the Sharks were lethal offensively until we ground them to paste. The skating wasn't high-end speed, but there was a lot of physical play, skilled board play. It's just a different brand of hockey, not a talentless brand of hockey, unless talent is simply speed and dangling in open ice. I'd argue those quick moves down low on/near the boards take as much skill as dekeing in open ice, that shit is tough, the vision some of our guys have/had off the boards is incredible, and that's why Kopitar is an insane raw talent--not because he's phenomenal in open ice, but because he can make moves with two-three dudes on his back in a corner. He's probably emblematic of that era, while, say, Kucherov more of this one.
YOu can say you prefer this style and it's less-boring to you and that's fair, but I don't thinkit's fair to call it talentless.
Sol
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Kings didn't start running over people until they reached the playoffs though. The game was about defense and forecheck. Nothing else really. I like this brand better tbh.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Totally fair.
I just think the 2012 playoff Kings - 2014 playoff Kings were a high-skill, high-pressure, physical, forechecking machine. they started looking a little gassed in 2014 and on thru 2015 and well we know the rest, I just don't think that was a talentless era is all...having played moderately high levels, I always struggled more with an opponent that was tough to control on the boards than one who could dangle in open ice. There are some high-skill, high-power moves that are damn near impossible to defend at my size, and the Kings made some world class defenders look like junior varsity during that time.
Edit: and I guess what I hate about this brand is that though a lot of the teams have high speed high skilled forwards--Nashville, as an example--many of them are resigned to playing that godawful neutral zone net and hoping for transition pops. I don't like that. I dig the odd-man rushes and timely goal scoring, but when 75% of the game is playing f***ing neutral zone plinko, I don't find it much better than the dead puck era, and that's to say nothing of the lack of physicality due to rats patrolling the ice diving and crying.
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Devils announced that Taylor Hall, Patrick Maroon, and Cory Schneider all had surgery after the playoffs. In particular, Schneider had hip issues which explains why he was stapled to the bench for the last 20 games. Seems risky to have him practice/play through that rather than rest, but it does explain why he looked off when he did play. Schneider might miss training camp / start of the regular season.
Ziggy Stardust
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Heed these words, fantasy hockey players. I got dinged badly by my goaltenders this year with my selections of Crawford and Talbot. Raanta and Andersen held me up, but the other two, yuck.
King'sPawn
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My opposing GMs hated me when I had Vasilevskiy, Hellebuyck, and Quick, especially in the beginning of the season.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
damacles1156
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The Sharks had some great teams too as well, it's a shame really. Goes to show you that the Kings could have an even better roster on paper than the 2012-14 teams and might still never win another cup.
KINGS17
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