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Who knows what would have happened. I think the only guarantee was that Lombardi was going to cash in on Simmonds, and had we gotten Stamkos instead of Doughty he probably trades Simmonds for a defenseman.

Stamkos had a 6 year run where he scored 256 goals in 413 games, that is a 51 goal pace over 6 years which would have run parallel to Kopitar's stone prime, and during that time the only games he missed were from that fluke injury where he crashed into goal post. Played every game in 10, 11, 12, 13 and 15

It would have been challenging to replace Doughty's minutes but a team with two elite centers like that and Jonathan Quick in goal almost surely wins atleast one Stanley Cup.
 
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Jones has been pulled in 2 of the 5 games. Aside from the 5 min burst tonight, the Sharks had nothing. Dell kept it from being much worse.
 
I think next year will be a big year in deciding where this team goes in the future starting with Doughty.

We will see what if any impact Vilardi has.

If they are out by the deadline they will likely look to make significant moves.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
So many Kings homers deny it. But had we had the number 1 pick in 2008, there's no way in hell we still would've picked Doughty. You don't pass on a 50-goal scoring 1C.
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Yes, they probably would have taken Stamkos. Personally, I would rather have a franchise cornerstone defenseman. You build it from the back out.

Good thing they ended up being 2nd overall. :)
 
kovacro said:
Yes, they probably would have taken Stamkos. Personally, I would rather have a franchise cornerstone defenseman. You build it from the back out.

Good thing they ended up being 2nd overall. :)
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I actually think Dean either would have picked Doughty #1 overall, or traded the pick to move down one spot maybe two and taken Doughty there. There were 4 defensemen taken in picks 2-5, and some teams liked Pietrangelo and Bogosian more than Doughty.

It would have been interesting to see the wheeling a dealing that may or may not have happened, but the Kings definitely got exactly what they needed in the 2008 draft.
 
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I know nowadays it's a wrong thing to say. But what Marchand has been doing is super GAY. I mean wtf is wrong with him?

But of course, I'm homophobic for not being a fan of his licking, right?
 
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Vamos Rafa said:
I know nowadays it's a wrong thing to say. But wjat Marchand has been doing is super GAY. I mean wtf is wrong with him?

But of course, I'm homophobic for not being a fan of his licking, right?
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I don't know why the refs don't penalize Marchand for Unsportsmanlike Conduct and put a stop to his nonsense.
 
kingsfan28 said:
IDK, buys them time for the next 2c to learn the center position from one of the best until he's ready to take over that spot. You all are dreaming if you think you'll get a young number 2 center or anything close in return by trading him. At best you're looking at a mid 2nd round pick and a bunch of fringe players with potential .
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So your saying Carter is a bridge player now? Vilardi is a player that needs a couple seasons anyway, by that time Carters value drops significantly.

We can get a bridge player that can show Vilardi the NHL way at a cheaper cost while having some actual talent in the pipeline.

Management just needs to figure out what kind of team they want in the future.
 
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DryIslandBartender said:
So your saying Carter is a bridge player now? Vilardi is a player that needs a couple seasons anyway, by that time Carters value drops significantly.

We can get a bridge player that can show Vilardi the NHL way at a cheaper cost while having some actual talent in the pipeline.

Management just needs to figure out what kind of team they want in the future.
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The thing is these types of trades often trigger a chain of events. Demitra becomes O'Sullivan and Lewis. O'Sullivan becomes Williams. You get the idea. Sure things might not pan out, but it is better than the status quo.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
I know nowadays it's a wrong thing to say. But what Marchand has been doing is super GAY. I mean wtf is wrong with him?

But of course, I'm homophobic for not being a fan of his licking, right?
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Considering the climate nowadays, I'm surprised it's not considered sexual assault.

I thought it was funny at first, but now it's getting pretty gross.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
I know nowadays it's a wrong thing to say. But what Marchand has been doing is super GAY. I mean wtf is wrong with him?

But of course, I'm homophobic for not being a fan of his licking, right?
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Don't disagree. My biggest problem is that everyone thinks its funny when I don't put it past Marchand to have herpes.
 
KINGS17 said:
I actually think Dean either would have picked Doughty #1 overall, or traded the pick to move down one spot maybe two and taken Doughty there. There were 4 defensemen taken in picks 2-5, and some teams liked Pietrangelo and Bogosian more than Doughty.

It would have been interesting to see the wheeling a dealing that may or may not have happened, but the Kings definitely got exactly what they needed in the 2008 draft.
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There were a lot of Kings fans who wanted Bogosian over Doughty at #2.

Stamkos was certainly the bonafide #1 overall. Bogosian was considered a physical specimen, all situations D. Schenn was considered an imposing SHD. Pieter Angelo was considered the long term project with the most upside. And Doughty was considered a high hockey IQ PMD who was the most “ready” for the NHL at his age. There were some concerns about his conditioning at the time.

A lot of people here wanted Bogosian over Doughty because we already had a “#1 PMD” in Hickey.

Thank god Lombardi went BPA on Doughty.
 
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SettlementRichie10 said:
There were a lot of Kings fans who wanted Bogosian over Doughty at #2.

Stamkos was certainly the bonafide #1 overall. Bogosian was considered a physical specimen, all situations D. Schenn was considered an imposing SHD. Pieter Angelo was considered the long term project with the most upside. And Doughty was considered a high hockey IQ PMD who was the most “ready” for the NHL at his age. There were some concerns about his conditioning at the time.

A lot of people here wanted Bogosian over Doughty because we already had a “#1 PMD” in Hickey.

Thank god Lombardi went BPA on Doughty.
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OK, your acronym game is too strong for me on this one. Mind telling me what they all stand for? Well, except for IQ.
 
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There were a lot of Kings fans who wanted Bogosian over Doughty at #2.

Stamkos was certainly the bonafide #1 overall. Bogosian was considered a physical specimen, all situations D. Schenn was considered an imposing SHD. Pieter Angelo was considered the long term project with the most upside. And Doughty was considered a high hockey IQ PMD who was the most “ready” for the NHL at his age. There were some concerns about his conditioning at the time.

A lot of people here wanted Bogosian over Doughty because we already had a “#1 PMD” in Hickey.

Thank god Lombardi went BPA on Doughty.
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At the time, Doughty was compared to Ray Bourque and Bogosian was compared to Chris Chelios. One had higher offensive ability, while the other was meaner.

Lesson learned from me, as I watched a couple games and thought Bogosian looked better than Doughty. I'd like to think I improved my understanding and analytical abilities over the past 10 years though
 
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DryIslandBartender said:
So your saying Carter is a bridge player now? Vilardi is a player that needs a couple seasons anyway, by that time Carters value drops significantly.

We can get a bridge player that can show Vilardi the NHL way at a cheaper cost while having some actual talent in the pipeline.

Management just needs to figure out what kind of team they want in the future.
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No, not at all. Show me an effective #2 center " bridge player" that is cost effect, is under 30 that has a contract below 4 mil. Carters cap hit is only 5.2.
 
kingsfan28 said:
No, not at all. Show me an effective #2 center " bridge player" that is cost effect, is under 30 that has a contract below 4 mil. Carters cap hit is only 5.2.
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There aren't any. Tell me how the Kings are going to compete for a cup with the top 2 centers they have now, because they haven't done it for four seasons.

So, why should the Kings hang on to an asset in Carter they can use to improve the team over the next 10-12 seasons?
 
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